is this flu a bio-weapon

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  1. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    recently the company making anti flu vaccine was caught putting live bird flu virus in the vaccine , you also have a large number of homeless people dieing in flu tests in Europe .

    what are the chances that this flu is a bio-weapon, a bird pig human flu that some people call a pigs might fly virus because the chances of it not being made in a lab are that remote
     
  2. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Are these people Alex Jones by any chance?:rolleyes:
     
  3. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    well there are other people apart from alex jones , some of the people were involved with bio-weapons programmes and are research scientists or medical doctors
     
  4. Fingermouse

    Fingermouse Helicase

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    Ok Im probably just being really backward (youll have to excuse me, I have the flu-yes really)

    Dont homeless people suffer with flu more because of the conditions they live in and their lack of good medicine, nutrition etc?
    And isnt it normal to put a fraction of the virus in vaccines? I genuinely thought it was
    Is this a joke or is my temperature making me really thick here?:eek: I probably didnt understand right
     
  5. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    the virus they put in the vaccine would have given the people taking it bird flu they were only caught because in one of the country's they sent it to they did a test on ferrets and they all died .
    you can google the story and the homeless people got tested by being vaccinated and died .

    you will find a record of governments spraying people with viruses as bio-warfare tests these viruses killed people I remember they did it in subway systems and from aircraft .

    they have also done things like radiate children to death in the past as part of experiments .

    now this may all sound far fetched but its all in the mainstream news just as small story's that no one really cares about .

    drug company's have in the past given medicine that they knew would give people Hiv these things do happen
     
  6. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    :rolleyes:
     
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    jonny2mad Senior Member

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  8. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    It's usually a denatured virus sample which goes into a vaccine. Live bird flu is used to create bird flu vaccine, this seems to have been mixed with human flu vaccine in one specific instance, which is very dangerous because it can create a cross-contaminating hybrid virus. If you google the story you discover that the mistake was discovered very quickly after some ferrets given the vaccine by a sub-contractor of the company involved died unexpectedly. It was not released into the wild or given to any humans and while a dangerous error, it seems to have been caught by the company's own internal safety mechanisms, and it's being investigated...
    http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-resulted-in-pandemic/articleshow/4230882.cms
     
  9. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    instead of looking in the air emoticons like poor fellow he listens to that mad man, Id like to see some proof that it isnt possible that someone could have released a bio-weapon .
     
  10. White_Horse_Mescalito

    White_Horse_Mescalito ""

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    Bush and Cheney didn't thin down the world population as much as they wanted to so;
    Jornada del Muerto
     
  11. Fingermouse

    Fingermouse Helicase

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    Ta for the explanation, that makes sense
    Poor fewwets!:eek:
     
  12. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    You cannot prove a universal negative, that's why the burden of proof is on those making positive claims. Of course it's possible, but since there is no evidence for it and it does not fit with the evidence there is, it seems very unlikely. You can speculate all you like but without good reasons to believe something like this you are essentially engaging in an act of blind faith and misinterpreting limited facts and circumstantial speculation through a prejudiced filter.

    Yes I roll my eyes at Alex Jones and those who believe what he says because he is clearly a massive idiot...
     
  13. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    You'd think a bio-weapon would be more effective. So far it's only killed Mexicans and infants.
     
  14. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Neither of which is necessarily a bad thing[​IMG]
     
  15. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    the American infant was also mexican if it mainly kills mexicans and asian if it was a bio-weapon it could have a race specific component , as mexicans have mainly asian genes .

    it wouldnt have to just kill asians to be race specific because you have europeans with asian genes .

    anyway thats something they have been working on for years , also diseases that target specific people if you have their dna samples
     
  16. Fingermouse

    Fingermouse Helicase

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    What exactly is making you think theyre wanting to kill off Mexicans Jonny? (Or Asians or that matter) Give us something to play with here...
     
  17. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    It's flu. It makes you feel very sick for a while but a vast majority of people fully recover. It has infected people of many different races. It kills a few vulnerable people who are prone to the complications which can result from having a fever like the very old, very young, frail, weak and starving people. It has broken out lots of times in the past.

    Perhaps this is evidence that the government is deliberately targeting the people who are likely to die from flu, by releasing flu.

    Don't be so very ridiculous jonny. This has none of the hallmarks of a bioweapon, if it is, it's a really bad one. This has to be one of the most inane conspiracy theories of yours yet. Too much Alex Jones will rot your critical faculties my friend...
     
  18. Raskalization

    Raskalization Making plans for Nigel

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    Is this flu a bio-weapon? No :)

    It's probably a 'shock epidemic media frenzy' to cover up something much more sinister :D
     
  19. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Now, that's a realistic conspiracy theory!
     
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