alot of these people are the same ones who bitch incessantly about the government brainwashing everybody into thinking that marijuana is a horrible, murderous, and barbaric drug. Well look at what has happened
Yes, another unintentional consequence of the state sponsored propaganda against the less harmfull drugs. When something is dangerous, as is the case with volatile solvents, people think it is just lies like with weed. The fact is these substanses are not something to be used recreationally. They can and will cause brain damage and possibly death. It is nothing to do with being closed minded but being sensible and knowing about the substanses you choose to imbibe.
any substance can and will cause brain dammage... unless used in moderation. For fucks sakes... orange peel gives you cancer... but theres a line to be drawn and it isnt the same for everybody. Dont give me any shit about the drugs that the gvmt advertises against are actually all right. Weed being the less severe.... but I dont think the meth ads are that far out to lunch. That goes for cigs and alchy too.
Not to the same extent as inhalants. That's a new one. I never said that. All substanses carry risks, it's up to the user to decide whether the benefits outweigh the risks. Anybody who bothers to research how inhalants work and the risks will not use them. I'm finished arguing over this. Anybody who is relevant interested can find the information on the risks of these substanses on sites like erowid, pubmed etc.
A lot of the past posts were talking about ether and computer cleaner lightly. Thankfully many people have pointed out that inhalants aren't all for a little "light-headed buzz" feeling. I'm just warning people that decide to huff starter fluid that they might not get the ditzy/energetic high that most kids want. Yes, you might feel like that at first, but be warned, you might just find yourself falling into the tunnel that leads to the key of time and perception... just a warning. If you're weak-minded starter fluid may not be for you. I'm not advocating recreational use of ANY inhalants. You CAN get addicted and you CAN suffer brain damage if you go overboard.
Um, I don't know how to say this, but huffing paint is not a psychedelic experience. You sound like one of those orphan kids in Bucharesti who lives in the subway and panhandles to get paint to huff. I saw the documentary. Why don't you try watching "Woodstock" and figure out the difference. That is, if you have any brain cells left.
How do you know this? Do you have a citation for this assertion? but theres a line to be drawn and it isnt the same for everybody. Dont give me any shit about the drugs that the gvmt advertises against are actually all right. Weed being the less severe.... but I dont think the meth ads are that far out to lunch. That goes for cigs and alchy too.[/QUOTE] Why not give you shit? If you are repeating DEA lies, then you'd best be ready to take the heat. Your Fascist lying government said that LSD caused chromosome damage. That was a lie. They said that MDMA caused irreversible brain damage. That was a lie, and they have since retreated because the research was fatally flawed. They claim that MJ causes long-term memory problems. More bullshit. In fact, Anslinger used to claim that MJ "made darkies think they were as good as white men." Nothing like the specter of the "Flower of Southern Womanhood" getting raped by the marijuana-addled Nigras to make people sit up and take notice of how horrible MJ is. Tell you what, Bruschetta-boy, go back to your Refucklican masters and tell them that your lies didn't work, because we understand what truth is, and you ain't got it.
schlubelberg,what's up with you?you're on period or something?chill out. i saw plenty of documentaries portraying the horrors of drugs,from MJ to LSD.you saw a documentary about the paint sniffing kids and you're starting to make assumptions.first of all those kids are so wrecked because they sleep on cold concrete,have no healthcare,eat garbage and so on.second i never said anything about paint.third,how do you know sniffing paint is not a psychedelic experience? and please don't make asumptions on my cognitive strength. to justify my position: antidrug person:"stoners are lost souls,they need help" "certified" drug user:"man,i just took some LSD.man,i'm teh coolest!you sniff paint?you stupid motherfucking moron,sniff my ass,get some REAL drugs so you can be cool like me,you stupid etc. etc." i find the latters attitude disgusting.
this has nothing to do with having an open mind or watching documentaries or being an outright mean person for no reason. ingesting any chemical, when you don't know what it is, what it is doing to your body, how it was made, or if it can hurt you, isn't smart. when you're looking for something to "get high" on, ask yourself first: why do i want to be "high"? is it simply because i'm bored, want experiences in life, or want to better myself by exploring parts of existence that otherwise would be impossible to visit? is there a natural or safer alternative to get the same effects? is it possible to die, injure myself, or have serious brain damage from one time use? i'm not going to say the government always lies and everything they are against is safe. i'm not going to say anything you can buy at wal*mart is poisonous. neither is true. meth is very dangerous, nitrous oxide is not. lsd is safe, dust-off is not. just please know what you're putting in your body. there are lots of interesting things you could do with your time. you could read or create something, or work on becoming a better person. but sometimes chemicals can help you open up yourself to yourself, make you ask questions you never would have thought of, and be really fun, so there are times when using them is fine and even beneficial. just remember what the doorknob said. feed your head.
Uh huh. Those kids might be abandoned, but they are wrecked BECAUSE they sniff paint. I suppose my background in chemistry renders me unqualified to speak to the toxicity of organic solvents, so I'll leave you in your know-nothing universe. Have fun! And do read the post above mine; it's an excellent one.
the only drugs i use are tobacco,coffee and ocasionally alcohol.i posted here simply because i find many of the posts disturbing and self-important.you could tell the dudes starter liquid is bad without being an ass. sorry schlubelberg,the homeless kids are a delicate subject for me.i get touchy when they're mentioned. some dudes in ancient greece went to the Oracle of Delfi and asked who is the wisest man on earth.the oracle responded Socrates is. they went to Socrates and asked him "Socrates,you are the wisest man on earth.what do you know?" socrates responded "i know that i know nothing". mans knowledge is a drop in the ocean and one could always be wrong. and thanks,ignorance is a bliss and i am having fun.
fuck man, if theres people coming on here telling everyone that you should at least try it, fuck them, i am going to say how stupid that is, fuck, i might have a good time skulling a pint of petrol but im not going to come on here and tell everynoe else they have a closed mind because they think its wrong.. whoever is desperate enough, has a mind who thinks its worth huffing shit, should be taking a very long break from ANY psychoactives. the day im hopeless enough to think about huffing is the day i stop ever taking drugs again.
if you start a fire on your bedroom floor, you can try to inhale the smoke. you might need to let it burn for a few minutes before it can really affect you though. after a while, you get dizzy and feel really relaxed... when you wake up/if you wake up, leave the hospital and go take a look at ur bedroom. thats how ur brain looks when you get done inhaling household cleaners/gasoline/paint/whatever
i know this thread is way old, but.... inhalants, btw.... very CHEAP. rubber cement nail polish remover whippits (makes me nauseas) and duster (though i've never tried it) $1 for chemicals at the dollar store versus $5-25 for "real" drugs. your call.
if you cant afford 25 dollars to provide for your habit you shouldnt do it. spending any money on TOXIC solvents to get high is fucking retarded.
trippedelia Great post you reallly sum up this whle topic.I can't even believe people are getting high on Fucking Computer Dust cleaner,Glade,paint etc it amazes me who some one would bring them self to try that shit. I would feel like a total ass hole telling any one I messed with that shit. UNREAL PS-There are a few good documentaries I have saw on cabel about kids who huff shit like paint,glue,cleaner etc. Most live in very poor 3rd world countries in central and south america. I could not belive what I saw they would walk around like a robot drooling all over,eyes rolling back in there head with paint all over there face holding a paper bag to huff out of. They were so dam fried some could not even remeber there own names any had no control over there bowls any more they would just shit and piss there pants and had no dam idea. it damages the brain so dam bad to the point of mental retardation. And the damage is irreversible and happens so quick, What crack cocaine or Meth does in 25 years to the brain Huffing chemicals will do the same damge in 6 months. I was shocked buy the doctor reports about how bad this shit is for you. Also alot of the shit can cause instant death, its not a overdoese where there is time to get you to a hospital like with herion or coke you die instantly from huffing, pretty much just fall to the ground dead with a paper bag on your face. Some real bad shit !!!!