i really am. against native americans (aboriginals, what have you). herad a news story about this program thing to help kids out and intellectually i know it sa great thing but all i feel is angry and jealousy that they get all these breaks from the government and as a poor whit ekid i had nothing ike that. iknow, i know that its good for them, will hopefully reduce future drug and substance issues but honestly i lucked out that i didnt get all fucked up like that myself, there werent no goddamn programs to ehlp me. yeah they had a raw deal and on reserves they still do, i know that, but i cant help but feel jealous and angry all at once over preferential treatment
Have you considered joining one of the many hate goups out there such as the Aryan Brotherhood, The Skinheads, or National Alliance seeking support from those who sympathize with your position :H Speaking as a minority (an African American) I can't understand why caucasians such as yourself, who are given every opportunity and advantage in a white dominated world, always bitch and complain about other groups when you don't succeed Hotwater
There are many white people who are poor and disadvantaged, and many "minorities" who aren't. Don't get me started on the race card. And preferential treatment of any one race is still racism, no matter what happened to their ancestors. The problem stems from seeing them as a group rather than individuals. They as individuals have done nothing to deserve any breaks. Their "group" has been wronged, but they're not part of any group. They're just people with a different skin color.
Offering a helping hand to those groups who have been historically wronged, whether by government sanction, or by misguided prejudice is quite simply - the right thing to do Hotwater
As a young child thru adolescence I was told I was a racist bitch by the black kids in my neighborhood just b/c I was white and a woman (and listened to rock music, oh my god). I never did anything to deserve that. I was very shy as a child and kept to myself mostly. I was the one discriminated upon but yet at the same time called the racist. is that fair? It took strong feelings of equality to keep myself from becoming a racist myself after so many negative encounters with black individuals. I just kept telling myself not every black person hates whites, and I can overcome this with love, and I did. So Hotwater, white people don't always have it as easy as people think. Especially if they live in an envirnoment where they are the minority. While I'm on the topic... Another thing that upset me alot as a child was the teachers would allow the black students to call us crackers (yell it) in the middle of class but if one of the white students dared to drop the N word they'd be suspended from school and have their ass kicked by half the school. Maybe the government should give me some money Children are innocent of race, or should be anyways. Our children should not have to pay for our ancestors wrong deads. When it comes to government grants... I side with giving them to the disadvantaged, whatever their race.
i'm not racist, i hate everyone equally seriously arg fuck race i may be white but my ancestors were imprisoned in concentration camps by our lovely canadian government...have they ever given me any fucking thing? no. fuck equality, simple thing is no one is fucking equal we can either piss and moan about what has happened in the past and we can be all pc about it or we can move on to this day the aboriginals in canada are getting fucked over by our government continuously alot of them don't get that much help from our government, if they do accept the governments help, they have to leave their land and give up other rights that they should still hold i'm a pretty white girl and therefore have never had any animosity held towards me...fucking bullshit i get called a racist, i can't enjoy the "black" culture the same way, because yes i am lacking in the melanoma department i am someone that is extremely supportive of the "native americans/aborignaials/indians/first nations" i hold alot of anger towards the government but more so i hold alot of anger towards people that cling to this race issue, forcing us to go back and forth and never reaching a better place with it...get fucking over it respect the past, celebrate your heritage, and appreciate your future too many people live in the past, it is not healthy eh i've gone on a tangent here...you get my point i hope...
I can sympathize with your situation since I was the only black kid growing up in an all-white community But as fate would have it, my size and athletic prowess (in multiple sports) elevated me to untouchable status by my peers. I never once heard the N_word spoken aloud, and anyone even thinking it, no doubt held their tongue for fear of being alienated by eveyone else (and of course, being beaten to inch of their life) But I digress, children are very perceptive and must have sensed weakness in you. I suspect in any environment, your peer group would have seen you as an outsider. Hotwater
I'm an individual so in alot of cases I was an outsider, but I take that with a lot of pride. I never respected the cliches and groups I saw growing up and wanted to be different. I value my individuality and the strength it takes to be one. as child though I can see myself as being weak from an outsiders perspective. But I was very emotionally and powerfully driven on the inside, underneath the layers that people could see. But back to the present. I still get weird vibes from alot of black people around here. I think there is just a lot of racism in this area and perhaps many in the African community see me as either a threat or even the enemy. One day I hope that the past is repaired, and the young stop paying for the mistakes of the old. One day it will come to be.
I grew up as an invisible minority, a gay white Catholic kid in a protesant, rural, racist area. I understood that the hate expressed for anybody different was also aimed at me...they just didn't know it. I failed completely to understand racial hatred. Why would people deny themselves the chance to know another person based solely on complextion, or religion? As I grew older I began to understand the "logic or reasons" expressed by racists. I resent it still, but recognize that some people feel the need to have a scapegoat or someone to feel superior to. The same holds for being gay, I can be the brightest and most caring person in the world and I'm still a piece of evil shit to some folks. Life goes on, I've done well enough in life and have a good strong family with a mix of color and religions among my sons. If I could reach out to anyone filled with hate I guess the simplest thing to say would be to "give it up". It just takes too much energy for no return. Take it easy folks, life is short.
::hugs:: gay people will be accepted one day soon. Look how much has happened in the past decade. Just know your wonderful even if some dip shits can't see it.
Giving minority groups special help only encourages racism. Only in America, I swear... only in America.
I suspect you held on too tight to your individuality in lieu of the rewards offered by embracing the group :H In regard to those weird vibes, they're almost certainly a product of your imagination unless your social activities within the community are more involved then you're letting on Hotwater
perhaps your right The weird vibes I notice more from individuals than the majority of the black population. I guess I'm still holding on to the past and it is me. I do try to make attempts to make things right though, like holding doors and being extra respectful (though I do that with anyone), but good deeds fall on deaf ears sometimes. I shall just let it go and not pay attention to it anymore.... haha embrace the group. when I see one attractive enought I will. you made a killer point and you don't even know me. Well done.
You don't understand what I'm saying. The individuals getting preferential treatment never had anything done to them. They only get it because they're percieved as being part of a group that was wronged historically. But they aren't. They're just people, who are descended from people who had wrongs done upon them. That doesn't entitle them to anything. It's too late to make amends to the people who were wronged, because they're dead. Giving preferential treatment to their descendants is racist, and just a pitiful attempt to make it look like something is being done. This is terrible advice. Everyone is pressured to bow to the group, and the only people deserving of real respect are those that don't.
Nalencer, Gotta disagree with you when you say giving preferencial treatment is wrong. For way too long in this country and others, people of color and women have been given the short end of the stick. By granting some preference to those who have been historically wronged it helps level the playing field some. If there is a preference for hiring black, latin or women it allows some people to get in the game who would likely not have otherwise. Had preference not been established it's doubtful the white, good-ol-boy network would ever have give minority people a fair shake. Yeah, giving preference is lopsided and at times may be seen as wrong but without it minorities and women would likely never have made much progress in employment. Just my opinion on a complex topic.
my dad explained it to me this way and it made sense. White people are advantaged because we have been so for so many years and as a result of successful generations we have more money to send our kids to school and otherwise take care of them and educate them. Black people are NOT less intelligent, but have a weaker finacial backbone due to slavery and discrimination, leading them to not hold as many high paying jobs, etc, in turn affecting their children. So when you look at it in that way it makes sense to pump in some govermental money to make the playing field more versatile, and equal. They should be given something back, so they have the same advantages we do (though not all of us. group doesn't always correlate to the individual). But when kids (or innocents in the race issue) are getting shit for it, like I did, I draw the line. That is reverse discrimination and equally wrong. But anyways thats my current understanding. Though I think we should move away from that system as things become increasingly equal.
Of course racism exists today. But these people are given special treatment for acts of racism that were not committed against them. And that's wrong. Racism is perpetrated against people of all skin colors, so they can all be treated equally. There's a big difference between levelling the playing field and simply slanting it in another direction. I'm not trying to come off as all obsessive about race relations. I normally don't even think about it. I don't resent any race for anything. I'm just stating my opinions on the subject. I don't want to sound like the statements put out by racist organizations to try and get recruits.
I think you hit the nail on the head here with jealousy. Sounds like you are just hatin'., cuz EVERYONE is giving the same opportunites as everyone else. I think hotwater said it best right here ^. If anything white people are given better advantages because when it comes down to it...this is America...a white dominated country.
Dear God, no! You're one of those "reverse discrimination" people! What an insanely illogical term that is. How do you "reverse discriminate"?
