I want to argue with all atheist and antichrist here!

give me any prove that bible ever say false.....please.
more over if what jesus(christ) said false. i'll appreciate if you can.

i give you the one bible fact that even i cannot resist.

Jesus said:---matheus 24: 2.

it's about end of the world..
if this building rebuild then it would be end of the world.

it proven until now.
if it false then i;ll surely doubt if jesus is messiah.

 

Revelations 5:5
And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.


I believe that to be true, and its already been fulfilled by Emperor Haile Selassie I Of Ethiopia, Kings of kings, lord of lords and conquering LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.

He can also trace his family tree back to king david also....The ark of the covenant is in The lady mary of zion church in Axum, Ethiopia.

Jesus is very real, but he has come back under a new name, just like it says in the bible. I think by coming on here literally asking people to prove you wrong then your going to get soooo much shit, some constructive, some blind and stupid.

Jah Rastafari is the light.

 

If the Bible is infallible, then why is this passage included in it? You shouldn't be able to add or remove anything from the Bible if it can't err. Thus, this passage is an error in itself. Funny that it comes as the very tail-end of the Bible.

 

"Camel through the eye of a needle".

This is a translational error that has been fooling people for hundreds of years.

The word camel and rope are very similar sounding. The scribe that wrote that section of the bible used the wrong word.

It certainly makes more sense for a rope to go through the eye of a needle than a camel, yes?

I am not an atheist, and I'm not religious. You'll have to define what you see as antichrist. In conservative religions, even someone like myself could be seen as antichrist.

End of the world? You mean end of a belief. For those that cling to belief, their end is truly at hand.

People who have no belief have eternal life.


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end of the world=armageddon=end of 3.5 years of antichrist reign in the world.
antichrist is a person.
christ=Jesus(a person)
antichrist=a person

christ-real messiah(bible),
'denied by jew'(it had written on bible and "Jesus said Himself", and this is what happen in this world, one more fortune teller(fact) from bible)

antichrist-fake messiah(bible),
will accepted by jew as real messiah.---this will happening by the time or soon after the "building" rebuild.--and what happen in the end of this is armagedon.

144.000 peoples of jew will accept Jesus as real messiah in the end of the world.(bible, i don't know if this just a symbolic or real)

that's end of the world
you didn't know that ?

camel and rope similiar sounding, great fact. would you explain in what language did you mean those are similiar? ---eventhough this statement just your opinion and not FACT, thanks for give intellectual insight on this. and eventhough it was real this is just typo by its writter(not Jesus), and not enough to breakdown Jesus as real messiah.

yumyum, you just give what you believe, and this is not thread for that, this is thread for argue with THE FACT.....



THE FACT is what happened real and you can see now in this world., like just what i give to.
compare it with bible.

 

I believe that Bible is indeed infallible in its essential teachings and i think its ridiculous when someone is trying to disapprove that with some non-important details. Also i think that most christian churches today are having false doctrines which are based on personal teachings of some people and aren't based on the grounds of real Christianity. I don't declare myself as a member of some particular denomination, simply i declare myself as Christian. Real Christianity should be based on teachings from the Bible and not on some false doctrines.

 

Carolyn Jessop
might disagree
lol...

 

I guess I am the Anti-Christ the bible speaks of, but, the "anti-christ" really isn't the "anti-christ". I embody more of what Jesus truly was than any christian.

 

Right, here's a few to throw at you (not normally one to put my views on others but you asked for it )

Genesis has got the creation story being either nonsense or symbolic, and it's saying that people were living 900 odd years. Obviously I can't exactly prove that's wrong, but it defies logic, especially seeing as Adam and Eve had been cast out by God, he's hardly gonna give them millennium spanning lifetimes is he? Genesis (and the Great flood story) has also got the problem in which there would have to be hundreds of generations of inbreeding, which begs the question, how exactly do we all look so different?

The story of Moses is a really bizarre one, there's not even the slightest bit of evidence that such a man existed, (obviously the Egyptians would've wiped any record of their defeat, but surely the Jews mighta left some sort of archaeological evidence as to them having wandered through the desert for 40 years).


Then again, you may be simply asking for some sort of evidence about the inconsistencies of the book of Revelations. Well, it's a tricky one, mainly because it talks about the future, and try as we might, we can't tell what's gonna happen in the future. It being the future and all.

On the idea of using the Bible as a moral source, as was mentioned earlier. That's not the greatest of ideas (the New Testament would be half decent one, but not brilliant) seeing as the Old Testament condones: rape, slavery, murder, the death penalty etc etc.

Again, not trying to press my views on people, but you did ask for it.

 

That's cool that your 18 and have already been in contact with every christian on the planet.

 

marko,.... again, you just give what you believe or what you think or what your opinion or your faith or whatever is that, and this is not thread for that, i repeat, this is for debating with FACT, or at least you give any good information0, strong evidence that bible is nonsense.

i was give you two fact that so REAL and you can see in this world Now.
Just a slight speaking from Jesus, and it happen so real until now, coincidence???? check again: Mathew 24:2.
what so hard to build just a mere building ? and for 2 millenia?
if this rebuild between that 2 millenia long time ago, you can sure that bible is nonsense.

and for every antichrist, at least Jew announce you as their messiah, you can't declare yourself as 'real antichrist' what bible said. only in your dream. LOL

 

finnaz, until now, only you that give some insight for this and the most interesting until now. eventhough that's not FACT. other just give what they believe.


you got same thinking of me long days ago. i was given explanation for that, and i give it to you.

Now, think logic.

read again the genesis, God not 'creating' in some DAY of CREATion. Read genesis 1:1 . God had created that longlong time ago.
plant, the seed had exist before God say them to grow.

don't think 7 Day on Genesis is creation of universe.
this is not creation(except Human) this just a Arrangement of what already exist.
900 years old. it's very possibly, if you want explanation why human now cannot reach that number read Genesis 6.

even on that time, there is a 'Strong Human'. Prove? look at Greece mythology.'
Zeus, Hades, Hercules, maybe on that tim'e Strong Human 'is what they call God. that mythology is from story on his/her childhood from their parent, and their parent from their elder parent, and origin from that is bcs there is 'Strong Human'.

Lol, for inbreeding case. it's easy task. do you ever calculated how many men can born in 400 years from 12 men? if one man give birth to at least 5 men in every 50 years, calculate that and you will surprise with the number.
and in ancient era one man give birth to 10-30 human is ordinary. there is multiple wife you know.
calculate that.....

you know, Human is superior creature in the world, it's hard to die. if Human exist a ten more thousand years ago, this world will be full of Human a few thousand years ago.

how do we look so different and so many language? read again on Genesis about The Tower.
and give you question back, all human in any other world have common you know.
1. why all ancient building in over the world have same structure? you guess it, that's right, pyramid like building. mayan, egypt, even Indonesia. give you what bible say about Babel Tower: the structure is like pyramid.

2. why all human race over the world regardless where they are make Gold and Jewelry as their valuable goods? who teach that?

3. why the Good God in all over Human race always Light-can be Sun, or any other kind of light-? why not green or even in black color, that's about flavor and appetite right? who teach them the 'same thing'



even now, the skeleton of MOses cannot be found.
wandering around desert? who know if their trail become city what make Saudi ARabia

revelation... you yourself said it. it's about future, and symbolic, cannot argue with that, bcs: no prove(it;s about future), it's about you believe it or not. LOL.


why there is so different between new testament and old testament? oh no, ask that question to church bcs it's so long you know.. LOL
but, i'll give simple conclusion for that. bcs in old testament that's happen in Dark Era. you know what i mean?
After Jesus, everything that closed before is already open bcs of Jesus.

if you wanna know what God wisdom for Human race in ancient era, read the story about David and Saul. compare them, and their mistake, why David not given punishment while Saul so punished by God although their mistake similiar. i talk about their religion rule,-both of them break their religion rule, why Saul being punished while david not?-
not talk about 'David took another man's wife'-this is another case.


Yes, you press it harder, that's why you become critical, and that's what i looking for.

 

The bible talks about heaven and hell, that's not a fact, you can't prove that there's an afterlife. I don't really remember reading many facts in the bible, if any.

 

The Naked Archaeologist is a great show...

 

"I want to argue with all atheist and antichrist here!"

why? are you really that bored? or lack the imagination to have anything better to do with your time?

i have no problem with the POSSIBILITY of ANYTHING EXISTING, only with forcing people to lie to themselves that they KNOW what is not KNOWN.

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I don't have to be, as every human being is apart of me just as I am apart of them. I've been around the block a few times, physical age is meaningless.

 

Well, that is quite a generalization, one that I feel certain you cannot know is true.

It's also quite a boost for yourself.

 

there's no proof that its fact or fiction. its really pointless arguing it, everyone has their own beliefs.

why is it that christians feel the need to always attack atheists? can they not leave it be?

 

Let me tell you what I believe.
That book has many truths, and many things of value can be taken out of it, though maybe not so much for me. I don't think I need to disprove any sort of holy book, there is no point. You believe what you believe for a reason. I believe that for most people the reason is simply hope; that without religion they would feel pointless and weak- at least with religion they can feel that something is on their side. Jesus was a man, sho nuff, and I bet he had some revolution thing going on, but realize the bible wasn't written down until many many years after the whole shebang, and until that time was going through oral tradition, and basically a really long version of the telephone game. I think it just got out of hand. But the bible is a great work of literature that has proven to be very influential, as it is a very captivating story.

In my world, truth is relative.

 

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I agree. The bible is a great book and christianty is a beautiful thing. its give hope to many of people who without, would feel hopeless and lost within our society. They would feel isolated, alone. It has directed many people's lives towards a greater good. whether the stories are true or not, there is no way to tell until we are dead. There is no physical or written proof that the bible is fact, nor is there physical or written proof that its fiction.