I think were worshipping the wrong thing.

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by LucidOne, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. LucidOne

    LucidOne Member

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    I find it interesting that a huge amount of people worship beings or powers (god, allah, buddha) that are intangible and unmeasurable, where theres no physical proof of said being/power and the worship is somehow justifiable by blind faith. I think there is a better recipient of this worship, that being our planet Earth. I'm not speaking in a metaphysical sense, as if its some kind of divine being (who knows, perhaps it is). But when you think about it, the planet has qualities that is similar to a god. The planet is responsible for our existence (at least according to science). It brought us about (evolution), it provides for us (food, water, etc.), and even protects us (from the vacuum of space, solar radiation, etc.). God(s) apparently do such things (create, provide, protect), but we cannot detect if these beings actually exist or if they are actually doing these things, and we worship them regardless. Our Earth does do these things, and this is fact, but mainsteam religions don't worship the planet. On the contrary, we abuse, pollute, and deflie the planet, which would be akin to blasphemy for these things to be done to something so "godlike".

    I think that if we devote time and energy to worshipping something, it should be real, tangible, measurable. Something proven, that is factual. What better thing then our planet? I just find it interesting that we as a society generally worship divine beings that we have no proof of existence, instead of a planet that created us, provides for us, and protects us and is obviously real.

    F.Y.I., I'm not proposing there is no god(s), and that we haven't been created by it or them. Simply a thought that I had.
     
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    I worship my dick cause it spreads the seeds of my soul, somewhere I have more of me's... I worship the creator so for making such a penis that allow me to penetrate a vagina, and feel love and create another me.. same as my father and my father before him and him before him.. It is BEING..
     
  3. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    So what do you say about the folk that worshipped the earth and it's wights?
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Honor thy father sun and mother earth.
     
  5. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    What's stopping you from doing it? Maybe you'll create a following.
     
  6. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    It's we're.
     
  7. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Yeah but then the Christians will come and burn down his house and his beautiful garden. God doesn't want healthy flowers!!
     
  8. LucidOne

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    Define wights please :)
     
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  10. HandBaNaNa

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    I do agree with the OP, this also reminds me of the book "Thus Spoke Zaruthustra" by Friedrich Nietzche. In particular the opening chapter, Zaruthustra speaks to a holy man who tells him "Now I love God, Human Beings I love not, the human being for me is far to incomplete an affair. Love of Human Beings would be the death of me."

    Zaruthustra believes this is false and tells the people: "I beseech you , my brothers, stay true to the earth and do not believe those who talk of 'over-earthly' hopes, they are poison mixers whether they know it or not. They are despisers of life, moribound and poisoned themselves, of whom the earth is weary: so let them pass on!" which leads to another passage relating to how the earth and humanity should be of greater importance to us than religion.

    "Once the sacrilege against God was the greatest sacrilege, but God died, and then all these desecrators died. Now to desecrate the earth is the most terrible thing, and to revere the entrails of the unfathomable higher than the meaning of the earth!"
     
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    To me this sounds like Native American faith. The creator gave life to all beings and all live in harmony. Similar to animism, maybe you should check it out, could be a faith you view as more valid then one worshiping a god/messiah.
     
  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    faith doesn't have to mean worship and worship doesn't have to mean what people think it does.
     
  13. LucidOne

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    I don't really want to create a following to be honest. I just find it interesting that people would rather worship the unseen and uncertain as opposed to the seen and certain.

    I suppose in a way I do worship the planet. I do think its the most significant thing in humanitys existence, and I do respect the environment and am disgusted by societies disregard for it.

    Also, if we continue this line of thinking, that the Earth is godlike, one could conclude that the sun is also. The Earth wouldn't exist if there was no Sun to pull material towards it to eventually form the earth. In that sense it is the "father" of another godlike object. There wouldn't be life on Earth without the suns heat and energy either. Again an object providing for us and protecting us (godlike qualities).
     
  14. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    good luck with that . . .
     
  15. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    why do we have to worship anything?

    [icky word]
     
  16. famewalk

    famewalk Banned

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    We are trying to escape the knowledge trap when we worship. At knowing we were coming to the understanding that we comment and are either certain or uncertain of each other's Being to be for better or worse; just the same the use of words was more being to contend about. But to achieve sympathy it was in the first place after all either a therapy to know about, OR a justice to believe in, goodness to hope about.


    So we worship for the form of ritual that we think we could have worshipped each other; actually we found that the planet was and continues to be impossible to worship; the knowledge about it determines such Good that the very therapeutic being we could apply to it, with each other, would be self-defeating.
     
  17. GardenGuy

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    Judaism has taught that the God of infinity has a personal side, a side you can relate to.
    Abraham was called "The Friend of God". Christians also believe that you can make contact with the Creator and love him as a friend. Worship is an expression of love, but also conveys a sense of awe about, and submission to a wisdom greater than yourself.
    Religion in practice can be very rote, mechanical and impersonal, but it doesn't have to be.

    The created world is partly in harmony with the will of God, partly in chaos. The same can be said for us individually. We are put here to help fulfill the prophecy, "Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven".
     
  18. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    The word worship comes from old English meaning, "condition of worth". In practice it means to treat somebody or something as deity: to treat somebody or something as divine and show respect by engaging in acts of prayer and devotion or to take part in religious service, or to love somebody deeply: to love, admire, or respect somebody or something greatly and perhaps excessively or unquestioningly.
    We do not have to worship anything in particular, but we are devotional by nature.
     
  19. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    two words stick in my craw:

    "somebody" [who may or may not exist as an anybody]

    "excessively" [never a good thing, i think "zeal" and "zealotry" are somehow related]
     
  20. famewalk

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    I had a conscience for you, but that was not enough. Thus we may enjoy common worship. Let's go buy a doll house.:)
     

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