I have experienced life in the 4th Dimension

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  1. Bl4ck3n3D

    Bl4ck3n3D Member

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    No, I am not speaking about time, I am speaking about the true 4th Dimension.

    The first dimension is simply up and down, the second dimension adds side to side (including diagonal), the third dimension brings everything around, and the fourth dimension is simply through.

    Look at it this way, stand infront of a wall or even your monitor, everything (including the emptyness) inbetween you and that wall/monitor, consists of the 4th dimension.

    Obviously, most people will not be able to perceive this. It is not an easy thing to accomplish. In order to reach such a state in which you'd be able to operate in the 4D, you must suspend disbelief. The things you can do in 4d make 3d look like child's play.

    Don't believe in psychic ability? Well the 4th dimension is full of it.
    Do you believe in the power of creation? It's got that too.

    While in 4d, you are able to perceive the 3d world in ways you've never imagined.

    Ever hear of malleable paper? In 4d, whatever you write down on paper, you are able to edit with your mind alone! You can skim through books in a matter of minutes, only picking up the important points. Images and magazines look lifelike, they are no longer flat, but have a sense of depth and feeling to them, think high-def looks amazing? You've seen nothing yet. Pictures no longer remain still, but breath and live, looking just like if you were the one there taking the photo.

    In 4d, you are able to penetrate solids. An example: Imagine you are holding a pill bottle, you concentrate on the pill inside and almost as if it was magic, you break a piece of the outershell off without even damaging the bottle or opening the lid!

    This is just a little tease of what is possible in the 4th dimension.

    Don't believe me? Well tough luck, I don't work with belief, I work with truth.
     
  2. FreakerSoup

    FreakerSoup Stranger

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    Sounds like a Richard Bach story. Have you ever read Illusions?
     
  3. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Discovered the room next door, eh?

    Wait till you see how many dimensions there are. How high can you count?

    Meanwhile, if it looks a little familar, its because this is also the land of dreams you visit every night. Ever lay down for just a minute and fall asleep? You'd swear it was 5 minutes and not the half hour the clock says it was.

    Time don't matter, over there.


    x
     
  4. Bl4ck3n3D

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    No, I have not, is it an interesting read?

    I realize I come off sounding a little arrogant, but I must emphesize the power of the human mind and will.

    It is truly underestimated.

    The only advice I can give on how to perceive in 4d, is to study the basic building blocks of life.

    More importantly, the seed of life, geometric patterns and shapes. They, along with numbers, underlay the basis of reality.

    Perceiving in the 4th dimension is like using technology way beyond our years. Whilst we advance in sciences and what not, we CANNOT forget about the most powerful tool available, the human mind. If only we could set up a science specifically inclined into advancing and studying the human mind without the restrictions it places on the "supernatural". In reality, nothing is supernatural, it is just natural.

    We are holding ourselves back.
     
  5. Bl4ck3n3D

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    It is quite amazing really. I only wish the average person would be able to understand it. It pains me knowing that there's a whoole lot more than what meets the eye, but most of the earth's population either refutes the idea or doesn't even care.

    Think of all the advancements we'd have, it's mind boggling. Makes me excited knowing that one day this will be the norm on earth.

    It's all in the ability to perceive, the human mind, not some distant planet or galaxy, it's right in front of us!
     
  6. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Limits are for the mind.

    Part of creation, but a talent in the wielding thereof.



    x
     
  7. Jedi

    Jedi Self Banned

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    lol, maybe it is better if some people wait another lifetime before they start tackling spirituality, they cling to what is not real, and forget about what is real, they confuse imagination and reality and think imagination is reality and reality is imagination. lol
     
  8. FreakerSoup

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    It's a pretty good book. I don't remember too much of it, but it was a good read with an interesting premise. He also wrote Jonathan Livingston Seagull, which has the same qualities.
     
  9. tikoo

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    ya , i've seen into 4-d . through is an ok word for it . i wish i could draw it somehow , and i have tried but i get buggered in complexity . music i can do easier because it's in motion and vibrationally spatial . it's likely not that unusual to sense it . it has to be of nature . i think it's new music that connects us now and in more than the old ancestral magic ways . we are advancing .

    i see that the 4-d has it's own kind of life . it's sensibly geometrical in form , that is , it's intelligence is its form . we might consider it relational to something like 'the spirit of smoke' . elemental . i don't know anything about what it does , just that i'd consider it alive .

    we see vibration , we speak vibration . to play freely with vibration in new ways we can get some understanding of the OneSpace shared by all life and then of Time , which is our kind of life's concern .

    boom chaka boom
    .
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  10. neodude1212

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    damn.

    i wanna do that.
     
  11. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    got no boundaries like a hip bum
    play to the space , vibe the hum
    spin the circle of the drum
    get some , get some
    where a when is
    all night strong for we

    .
     
  12. edyb123

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    lol.... and did you use drugs to reach into this 4D?

    I don't really understand what you're trying to say here... but it sounds like a kind of... matrix style.. 'if you want it to happen it will' kinda thing.

    Perception is all the world is... so altering that is no hard task once you understand the way perception (and therefore the world) works.

    Are you saying that 4D is like the dream world? In a lucid dream we see what we want to see... yet we are still within the same mind... have you found a way off mixing the dream world with the concious world? So that you can view the usual things... while changing what you want using the dream world?

    I take it your not really seeing what's inside a pill bottle... you're just creating and image in your mind of what is inside the pill bottle... there is no way to know what is really inside the bottle without experiencing it first hand... the pills do not exist until perceived... so there is nothing past the wall of the bottle.
     
  13. tikoo

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    relax
    relate to Space
    with a relaxed intention
    commune , commune
    freely

    this may take awhile

    when you see
    4-d
    tis amazingly obvious
    beyond
    hallucination

    of pills in a bottle that do not exist until perceived
    is illogically sympathetic , so

    we wait and see
    in human time
    and with few
    assumptions

    and quest extreme existence
    unto completeness ,
    peace

    in peace you might
    reach in
     
  14. edyb123

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    Why do 'enlightened' people always speak in rhyme and riddle?

    I guess... if i have to ask then i'll never know.
     
  15. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    This is semi-on-topic:

    "images and magazines look lifelike, they are no longer flat, but have a sense of depth and feeling to them, think high-def looks amazing?"

    When I read that, It instantly reminded me of the times that images, either on the computer screen or on paper, would 'pop-up' and seem like incredibly life like whenever I smoke cannabis. Many people would try to discredit this experience as invalid, but any thinking and feeling person would understand that this type of experience is special and should be honored as valid.
     
  16. tikoo

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    Why do 'enlightened' people always speak in rhyme and riddle?


    i don't want to tell you what to think . this is wild new exploration , and we are equal in it - stoned or as a child and within artfulness . i'm not enlightened , or pseudo enlightened or whatever ... just please carry on . i really think this is important -
     
  17. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Tikoo pretty much understands what I'm talking.

    No drug could produce hallucinations like what I experienced. It was so real, it was un-real.

    What I went through that night was a spiritual rebirth, I don't really care if you believe me or not, the fact of the matter is, what I experienced was real. I know it, I am not looking for anykind of validation. I just wish to share my experiences with others, in hope to spread the message across that there IS more to life than what meets the eye.
     
  18. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    I understand blackened.

    I haven't experienced the same things that you have experienced, but I have experienced doesn't require explanations; it just is.

    The thing that is important to remember is that many people are too conditioned to allow themselves to believe that such experiences are valid. There are the stereotypical scientist types that hold onto empiricism as if it were a religion. And there are those that want to believe, but don't have the evidence (personal experience).

    All you really need to do to find truth, is to allow yourself to say that more can be possible in reality, and to allow yourself to believe when the evidence has been presented to you.

    Some will always try to discredit these experiences as merely an 'effect' to something, but you can say that the human experience is just an 'effect' of trillions of different reactions. If you accept this, then you can't invalidate 'effects' that change our perception and overall human experience, just because it's convenient to do so - perception is reality - You can't just give the common human experience superiority simply because it is common. Just because science can 'prove' a reasoning behind an experience, doesn't prove that there isn't more to that experience that has already been 'proven'.

    Effect or no effect, you still can't deny a very REAL experience, experienced by a very REAL person.

    You felt joy after winning a soccer game; you experienced that joy, and science may give an explanation for that experience, at least to some degree. But that still doesn't change the experience that was felt by you. You have to ask yourself, what exactly is a sensory illusion? Is it the illusion of the shared human experience, or is it the illusion that people like Blackened and I experience? Why would one experience gain superiority over the other. Frankly, it seems too subjective, and it leaves me with the understanding that all experiences are very real indeed, and scientific explanations doesn't explain what was actually felt, personally, by you.

    If everything is an illusion, then so to are our explanations for everything that we hold dear. So what is it, posit that all is an illusion, including all human 'truths'? Or, posit that all experiences are equally valid and worthy of the stamp of credibility? Either way, A truth is learned. That is not to say that THE truth is learned. But a good idea of what the truth is may be obtained.
     
  19. neodude1212

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    that's funny b/c the exact opposite thing happened to me.

    To me, real things would look incredibly fake and 2 two dimensional.
     
  20. tikoo

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    in experiencing dim4 , i have felt very objective in seeing that sort of shape of things . i didn't have any inclination to interact even though i'd feel there was no defining separation of space . my eyes quite open - i'd just study it quiet and still . it ? i've seen one particular shape on two occasions . note : the shape may be alone or in a group of like shapes . you might construct an 2-d representation of it using parenthesis symbols .

    take ( )
    then shift one down a bit and shove them
    together
    .
     

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