I finally have it.

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by TheQuestion, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. TheQuestion

    TheQuestion Member

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    Lurker of about 5 years here. Anyway, on to the post....

    Nothing is inherently true. Every "truth" you hold is what your process of interpretation permits you to believe. There are no universal truths. Reality isn't your environment, it's your interpretation of it. When you look at things around you, you don't just see them as they are. Everything you perceive goes through these filters in your mind. Those filters are what we call interpretation.

    The beauty of this is that you to a great extent control your own process of interpretation, meaning you shape your own reality, the foundations of which are built largely by external influences early on in your life. However, these foundations are not of concrete. If you so choose, they can be changed or entirely demolished, then rebuilt from the ground up. Be mindful, though, that others can do that for you, if you let them, either consciously or unconsciously. Keep your mind as open as possible to new ideas, but don't let others make you who you are.

    "Nothing is true; everything is permitted." - Supposedly spoken by Hassan-i Sabbah.
     
  2. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    Then what about empirical thought?
     
  3. TheQuestion

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    Empiricism has it right in that the surest way to acquire knowledge of one's environment is through firsthand experience, experimentation and observation. However, one must take into account that they don't necessarily know if their environment really even exists. Descartes sums this up fairly well with his statement, "I think, therefor I am." The only thing you can be sure of is the existence of your own consciousness.
     
  4. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    poor plato
     
  5. TheQuestion

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    Haha. I think there is a certain beauty in empiricism, though. To make no assumptions and only believe what you can consistently observe over and over again is a noble idea. It's the best way of understanding the universe we perceive, or at least, the one I know I perceive.
     
  6. neodude1212

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    I like to entertain the belief of a golden realm of absolute truths sometimes on rainy days when I'm sad.
     
  7. TheQuestion

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    Entertain whatever beliefs you like. Part of my ideas I've posted here is that there's no way to really know if there is a golden realm of absolute truths. My whole point is that one doesn't really KNOW anything.

    I'm personally a fan of rainy days.
     
  8. I take the opposite approach. All there is is knowing. Everything is inherently true. Meaning that it definitely exists. Even if you are completely wrong about something, it is factual that you are completely wrong.
     
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  10. itsallgood

    itsallgood Senior Member

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    I like the idea of alterante realities. When i cross over depending on this life iam able to change which part of the universe i live in. The better i live the better enviorment my spirit is given. Crazy right?.....Think about that, them stars are either suns, planets or one those in the making. Do you understand how many dimensions there are? lol
     
  11. itsallgood

    itsallgood Senior Member

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    And your basically right. Our reality is ours and thats that. Iam able to say whatever iam able to say about this reality, iam given the ability to believe in whatever i choice to believe in because that is a given gift. Is that how you interpreted this reality? Or is that a belief with past lives where iam able to shape my next life by lawing the world i was given in this one?
     
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    you got aids...
     
  13. NotDeadYet

    NotDeadYet Not even close.

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    That is the core of Eastern thought.
     
  14. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Not that I disagree, but is that inherently true?

    This is one of the reasons why I distrust empirical thought because it's ultimately left up to human minds, which by their own admission, only an evolved monkey brain. Is that really trustworthy?
    Unless we find the advice of others to be beneficial for our own lives then I would accredit that to be true and good for me. This is what is called wisdom and it's been known to be observable throughout human existence and is beyond cultures and ideologies. But since I believe that me and others are virtually identical persons with the only difference between us is that you're your own 'I' and I am another. Because if I can know that I exist, then I can also know what is good for me in the same favor as knowing that I exist. Therefore, what is true for one can also be true for all since we are all the same. I can't know for sure that there are other 'I's though, but I have faith that there is.


    The core of our lives and our existence is based squarely on faith.
     
  15. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    My comment to that would be: While all things are permitted, not all things are beneficial.
     
  16. TheQuestion

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    Very true.

    I interpreted the "everything" in the quote to mean an individual's everything, though. I interpreted "everything is permitted" to mean that all the things an individual "knows" are simply what his mind allows to exist within his own consciousness.
     
  17. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Actually its not even your interpretation, there's no concept here that hasnt been thought of before, from the likes of Plato, Descartes,Cofuscious, Oprah

    Even the OPs username reminds me of The Matrix
     
  18. TheQuestion

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    Just because the concept has been thought of before doesn't mean you can't come to the same conclusion through your own interpretation.
     
  19. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

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    :confused: who the hell lurks for 5 years?
     
  20. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    probably Adam
     
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