I don't know how many of you on this list care about health food, though it is my life's driving passion, and an activist friend informed me today of Bill HR875 being put through congress possibly next week in a sneaky attempt to get it passed. HR875 would outlwaw all organic foods in the US, requiring every food grown to be sprayed with at least two pesticided. This is not limited to food grown for commercial purposes but also food an individual might grow in their own yard for personal or family use. The backers of the bill is Monsanto, who has been trying to get control of the food supply for decades. They are also the manufacturers of the two pesticides the bill is requiring on all food. The bill also makes it illegal for farmers and family growers to store and hold heirloom seeds. Don't be naive and think it can't happen. Already, raw almonds, a staple of many health diets are banned, affecting the health of countless people who relied on them. (all almonds must be pasturized, killing the enzymes some find neccessary). Even if you don't care about food, denying Americans the freedom to choose their food, and denying them the right to grow their own in their own way are things this country stands for. What can you do? Contact your congress people, via phone or snail mail (no email) and tell them you oppose this bill HR875 Contact any Congress people and tell them you oppose this bill. (I found that worked well). the strength of a nation depends on the health of its citizens.
Are they fucking serious? isn't it our right to purchase or grow food that hasn't been sprayed with harsh chemicals? ughh, people amaze me. I OPPOSE. I love ORGANIC food, I'm a health nut, honestly. I don't want chemicals in my body, and I avoid allowing them as much as I can. I can't believe they actually have even proposed this. --Sorry for the language..
This is not true. HR 875 simply establishes the Food Safety Administration in the wake of the recent salmonella incidents. It says nothing about organic food or forcing anyone to spray anything. You can read the text of HR 875 and see for yourself ... http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875
you're gonna tell me that a bill pushed by people with conenctions for monsanto is just about food safety? name one time in the past when monsanto pushed for something and it had to do with food safety issues.wake up lady, when this bill mentions food production facilities. this refers to farms as well. not just peanut butter processing plants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epXNJNjYBvw i think you need to take a slightly closer look at this, rather than just reading part of the bill. you can clearly see by looking into this more, that these measures would indeed hurt small farmers and could technically be used against regular people who grow vegetables in their backyards too. you should keep in mind that it was stanley greenberg who successfully pushed for the use of bovine growth hormones in the dairy industry.
no, but youtube did a pretty good job of stating the case against this piece of orwelian legislation. how can you be fine with any piece of legislation that monsanto is behind? this has NOTHING to do with food safety at all. it's just an excuse for more government controls over the general population's food supply.
Read it for yourself, something you obviously haven't done. And wake up, dude. Youtube is hardly the authority on new government legislation.
kind of makes me curious as to why the link is dead. perhaps it's because they don't want normal people to be informed? i still fail to see what monsanto has to do with food safety. if monsanto were really that concerned about food safety, they wouldn't be manufacturing poisons that not only destroy drug crops in south america. but poisons that kill food crops and run off into ground water sources. they alreayd have enough people's money when people buy their heavy metal laden miracle gro fertilizers. why should they be entitled to more money? honestly, i think it's because the organic food market is a booming industry and the government wants a bigger cut of the profits. but that's just my two pennies worth.
There is another thread about this. The bill only affects farmers who sell their organic foods, if grow organ food and use it for personal use there is not worry. Though this bill will make it possible to randomly search farms with no warrants needed, and the search is refused the farmers can be fined up to million bones. This bill will hurt many small private farmers.
nevermind, the link is back up. but i'm still not seeing any mention of anything to ease the fears of consumers.
Though this bill will make it possible to randomly search farms with no warrants needed, and the search is refused the farmers can be fined up to million bones. This bill will hurt many small private farmers. Have you actually read it? Do you see anything in there about "random searches"? No.
but i'm still not seeing any mention of anything to ease the fears of consumers. What fears? That it will "outlaw organic food"? Again I say ... read it! Where is there any mention at all of organic food? There's not one word about organic food in the entire bill. Why are you so against this? Do you really want more salmonella outbreaks caused by some idiot food plant manager who kept distributing bad product because he didn't want to lose out on his bonus?
Please people -- read the bill, it's online -- before spreading all this misinformation. This is paranoia. I just read the whole bill (quickly) and I see nothing in here that's bad for organic farmers.
no offense, passing laws based out of fear has been shown time and time again to be a very bad move. i don't want this, because this bill would mean more control of the food industry placed into fewer hands. how do you figure a bill that's mainly being sponsored by makers of geneticly modified seeds and pesticides have anything to do with food safety? look at the corporate entities pushing for this if you think this is about food safety. we already have a government that overregulates just about everything. except for big buisness and banking of course. how exactly will nationalising farming prevent food poisoning?..................................you can catch salmonella form multiple sources, including reptile feces and undrecooked eggs. more government regulations isn't going to stop reptiles from pooping or careless people form undercooking eggs. you know what probably spreads more disease than anything else on earth? not washiing your hands. when you give government total control over everything, the results will inevitably be spooky. if you need a good example of how big government regulations can backfire, just look to the direction of the FDA. they tell us patent medicines are safe to take, only to later on admit they were wrong. you know why this is? it's because drug companies put money into their pockets to speed up approval of these drugs in question. by the way, i've been eating peanut butter regularly for many years and have yet to get sick because of it. the news stories about salmonella didn't stop me from including it on my shopping list either. i fear a government that keeps increasing in size and power a lot more than i fear any disease causing entity.
this is about monopolising farming, this is a very bad move. i've read the bill too. i don't like it one bit, i happen to live in an area where a lot of farmers live too. most of them aren't able to survive and continue running their farms without corporate and government subsidies. it's why when you drive around here in the midwest you see advertisements for specific brands of soybeans. look at monsanto's history if you don't think them backing any laws regarding farming to be a bad idea.
how exactly will nationalising farming prevent food poisoning?..................................you can catch salmonella form multiple sources, including reptile feces and undrecooked eggs. more government regulations isn't going to stop reptiles from pooping or careless people form undercooking eggs. Well, you must be reading something I'm not ... where does it say anything about "nationalizing" farming? It doesn't. hahaha ... that's pretty funny about the reptile pooping. However, it doesn't have anything to do with this discussion. I think your real agenda here isn't this particular bill ... you're just upset about making new government departments and regulations. I can sympathize with that. I just don't think you should go around spreading false rumors about them.
this is all pure 100% bullshit! how many time have i posted CREDIBLE links in this fourm, to educate you people on how to do research and, valadate the information you recivie, and, yet, you never, ever, do it! yeah, it is work and it requires thinking. oh fuck! now i'm frustrated as all hell! come on people! educate yourselves in basic informal logic... oh, i'm just pissing my time away with most of you all!
where is your evidence of this?? i asked you in the other thread and you ignored the question because what your saying is a blatant lie. once again,read the fucking bill. it makes ZERO distinction between growing for personal consumption or to sell. it makes ZERO distinction in clarifying what a "farm" is. quit spewing lies that you know you cant back up.