hppd from 2c-e?

now i have been a very irresponsible user of this beautiful chem, like tripping 3 times a week at doses between 25-30mgs so i think it would make sense that i am still getting minor visuals 2 days after my last trip. they come right before i go to sleep. trails behind my hands and random rainbow spots.

my question is have any of you more responsible 2c-e vets noticed any hppd symptoms from 2c-e after a few high doses? seems like this stuff doesn't fry me out but my perception stays off for a while.

 

I just tripped for 24 hours a few days ago... watched a dude who was already tripping snort 20 mg and chase some vodka with heinz 57 sauce. I don't think any redoses could affect me at all [HPPD]... of course you're very mildly fried for a few days off each dose, but really the first dose is what changed everything... same with the first dose of any new psychedelic.

It did feel like I was going to fall out and start having a seizure though later in the night, it just seemed like all the visuals were flashing many different colors, and then I just starting getting more fucked up and the world started getting bigger but I realized what was happening and then somehow that stopped it from happening...

Anyways this shit is crazy and intense, but with similar dosing I'd call acid the one that frys you out more.

I remember the first semester I ate LSD every single fucking tuesday for a long time... I was just fried. I ate this 2C-E three times in one week got a good nights sleep, lived another day, slept then, and it was all back to normal. That 24 hour trip made of multiple, countless re-doses didn't seem to fry me too much either...

Enjoy the world after 2C-E... because trying to get back to the world before 2C-E would be a giant heartache and waste of time and energy.

 

ive tripped 24 hours off 2ce, definitely felt burnt out the next 2 days but no hppd. 2ci always gives me hppd even when i dont trip off it, how stupid. 2ci is lame..

 

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2ce seems to have given me slight HPPD - if we're talking about visuals. it also seemed to make the back of my head feel tight or pressurized when i was smoking pot, but not tripping.
it could possibly have given me stomach/GI issues. (or complicated pre-existing ones)

i've only used up to 20 mg at once. i have tripped 2 days in a row from it. but only a couple times. max of 4 times per month, and that's what i consider heavy use. i usually only trip once a month or even less.

i also eat acid, but i blame the 2ce
and don't get me wrong, i still like it
the hppd has faded
so has the back of the head feeling, and i attribute that to weed
and my stomach is still kinda fucked up, that is the main thing that i dislike about 2ce. ties my stomach in knots, and makes it feel like SHIT on the comedown and the next day

that's also the reason why i don't take too high of a dose
i'm afraid of how that would make my gut rot

 

Yea, the body load on 2ce was too much for me while tripping.

 

My perception was/is definitely a bit off from 2c-e.. it was worst when I took 2c-e weekly for around 1.5-2months. Just gotta give the mind a break and it'll be better soon.

 

ive taken a weighed dose of 2ci before which has made me trip super mega hard, and ive had equal weighed doses other times and have not tripped of it at all, maybe a little body high alertness or something but nothing else. But ive definitely noticed hppd stuff after both type of trips, its weird. so i just stay away from 2ci, it gives me a weird head trip too.
2ce on the other hand gives me an awesome body high and a crunk/psychotic head trip that blends with the body high, i like 2ce. :coolgleamA:

 

It's been about 7 years since my last dose, but my vision has never been the same after my rather extensive experience with 2c-e and 2c-i..

Not complaining, though :sifone:

 

I think it is very possible... I thought the same thing after I first did it.

 

I'll tell you straight one concerned man to another - 2C-E has fucked up my vision, and it's persistence use has developed me tremors, slight twitches, etc. My HPPD from acid was never that bad, and would subside after a few days. Repeated dosing with 2C-E.. jesus my life has become a trip, lol. If I stare out for a while shit stretches and sways, it's like the field of my vision becomes a bed sheet waving in the air.

I never really used any other drugs besides weed, during my initial trials with 2C-E, and the development of such symptoms were almost immediately (the day after / same day) after relatively big doses, 25-40mg. Sometimes a muscle in my arm just starts spazzing out, it's hard to notice, but if I point out people notice, lol. It looks like my skins just wiggling. 2C-E may or "may not" have a grain of salt to it, beware.

Moderation really is key with these drugs.

 

does your vision stay like that though. if you don't dose for a month or two?

i get those exact muscle spasms. everyone does. but i do kinda feel like i get MORE now.

i do have slight HPPD as well. i see black movement in my peripheral vision. it makes me look over like something's there, but there isn't

"EVERY TIME ACROSS FROM ME, NOT THERE!!"
my friend said that on an acid trip. t'was hilarious. or maybe it was 2cb the next day

 

It's probably because of the marijuana in all honesty. When I am not experiencing respiratory issues like I am currently, I'd probably be puffing on something. I think if I were to slide off marijuana for a month they may subside, but there is no telling, and my vision has been like this for almost 2-3 years now since I've pretty much always been smoking marijuana, and tripping on and off since I started. If it's worth mentioning though, when I tripped occasionally and barely smoked marijuana, my HPPD almost always would subside within a month. But I've obviously pushed it for a while, it may or may not be reversible, not that I mind HPPD or anything anyways. Kinda reminds me of just having more interesting floaters lol.

It is kind of relieving to know that other people experience the muscle things, not that I want you to lol, but just to know it happens. I thought that was my weird body chemistry, but I've never really experienced anything like it until I messed with 2C-E (spasms / tremors / ++ HPPD symptoms etc

 

lol ive had hppd for almost 2 years now, you get used to it.

 

I have pretty bad HPPD that is only now starting to show ANY sign of improvement. I never smoke weed because I think its a waste of time. So I know its not because of that.

I was taking 2c-i and 2c-e irresponsibly. It was a specific trip on 2c-e that unlocked some wicked HPPD that can not go unnoticed. It effects my life now. I now have anxiety and paranoia too. But the army docs say thats because of the PTSD. I think they helped each other in all seriousness. But the 2c-e was most def the cause of the beginning of it.

Fuck 2c-e...

 

2ce has always given me muscle tremors, specially in my legs.

i can make anything move if i want to really, i just look and start thinking all trippy and it happens a bit. i always see colors in my eyes, little spot here and there, things definitely trace. ive noticed that smoking bud brings up all these "symptoms" but meh, its fine. the 2cx just seem more unhealthy than other things, they seems to have more lasting effect on me, physical and psychological. but im sure its not just 2cx, just tripping alot i guess does it haha

 

ive had hppd for a loooong time. im used to it now but the first year was hard. now i kinda like it lol

 

If I have experienced HPPD, I've never noticed. lol

Of course, I may just be permanently fukt and don't realize it:tongue:

 

I got this after only my second experience with 2C-I. I've got no problem never touching it again, since it seems to be a fairly shallow trip in terms of the real life introspection, but it sucks having trouble focusing on the real world like I used to. It's not so terrible except when I get tired or when my anxiety acts up.

Does anyone have any advice for how they deal with HPPD? Do other people have the whole emotional aspect (the depersonalization), or is is mostly just visual stuff? It's been over a month now, and I'm just trying to see how to deal with it, in case it's here to stay.

 

I might just be dead wrong; but I say that 4-AcO-DMT will bring about a lucidity unequaled at the end of the trip. It is the cure for 'fried' / mild+temporary hppd. I took acid every single tuesday for a month and a half... with a few other things thrown in there in between... let's just say I was to the point where I thought I had a mental disorder... but I received my 4-AcO-DMT and dosed the first time, came down, and realized I really had come down. No more visuals, no more loopiness and general feeling of retardation.