How is it right that we can buy land?

Discussion in 'Living on the Earth' started by DaisyButtercup, May 10, 2012.

  1. DaisyButtercup

    DaisyButtercup Guest

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    I don't see how it is right that we can buy a piece of the Earth... I mean how did the first person claim a piece of land was theirs to sell?... I'm not sure if I'm explaining this well enough, but I hope you get the drift of it :) Also, I've heard that you can buy part of the moon? WTF? Do you send the money up into space or something?
     
  2. FlyingFly

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    If everyone could have piece of earth just like that, there wouldn't be enought of it.
    How did first person do it?

    It is simple. I say it is mine and it is. If you don't like it, you can kill me, scare me so I will run away leaving it to you, or ignore me...
    There were caveman, owning a cave and if someone entered their cave, they were killed. So I guess cave 'belonged' to them. Then they started forming tribes, in which everyone had his piece of land and intruders were killed. Then civilisation came in and changed killing to money punishments. I've hear that you can actually shoot unwanted intruders in some states in USA, is it true?

    Moon
    No one owns moon, people selling it are frauds.
    http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/07/who-owns-the-moon/
    http://www.lunarregistry.com/info/embassy.shtml
    And even if someone did, you would pay the person which owns it, not flying spaghetti monster.
     
  3. DMFP

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    I get the Earth bit but what is the point of buying a bit of the Moon - I mean how often would you be able to go enjoy it? Could you use it as an allotment to grow vegetables? Build a house?:)
     
  4. FlyingFly

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    Someone would make drug lab there. And to get hight, you would need to go really high...
     
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    That is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever seen! haha..

    Anyway, i was just thinking that shouldn't the earth belong to everyone?
     
  7. FlyingFly

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    Would you want some people to come into your house and do whatever they want there?
    In an utopia yes, in real world, it won't work.
     
  8. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    In my case, the county I live in must own the land. I have paid for my home; I own it; but if I don't pay property taxes the county can take my home and the land it sits on. I think they should at least let you move your house off the land since it's paid for but that's not the way it works. I think there is so much wrong with all that.
     
  9. Pink_Panther

    Pink_Panther Banned

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    You don't really 'own' it - buying it is just, really, establishing who has the right to use that area. Hard to see how farming would really work otherwise, lol.
     
  10. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Right and wrong is subjective. The majority has accepted long ago that the benefits of owning land are worth calling it right. Perhaps it started with reasonable outlooks but when you get too much people in a country all the land gets divided, assigned a purpose and so it gets disadvantages as well. Unfortunately as long as we have so much people it seems almost a necessity to assign a purpose to all land there is :(
     
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    Guns.. Weapons..

    No further explanation needed..
     
  12. Skooky

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    I've always wondered if I was to buy a cemetery/burial plot if I could set up a tent on it and go camping since I "own" that piece of land. Figured I might as well get my moneys worth. aha


    ~~peace
     
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  14. walsh

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    The idea of uniform, divisible space isn't an inherent or natural concept to us humans. It came to us through a long period starting with writing and perhaps culminating with Aristotelian and Cartesian ideas of space as a highly idealized and abstract medium 'filled' with objects, rather than objects creating their own unique space. Land as a commodity was made easier to conceptualize with the alphabet and later Gutenberg printing with their inherent traits of repeatability and substitution. A letter is a phonetic symbol which can be inserted any number of times to produce the desired sound, rather than the concept of each word-sound being unique in speech. The same distinction applies to identical commodified blocks of land-space as opposed to the unique natural landscape which cannot be divided or segregated from the whole. An individual's property rights in a piece of land is identical to any other individual's rights in another piece of land. Mass production is another natural development from these technologies and ideas. Land ownership is absurd to tribal and nomadic peoples not only because of this but because of their collective notions which cannot regard the individual as being anything other than part of a whole.
     
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    Money is the drive for human existance at the moment, that's all we're supposed to care about. Feed into the system, greed and impunity.
     

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