how do you feel about abortion

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by alexxxx, May 6, 2008.

  1. alexxxx

    alexxxx Member

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    i'm not sure how i feel about it. dont know if this is the right place to put this but whatever.
     
  2. FinnishButterfly

    FinnishButterfly JennyJelly

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    I think if youre fourteen and pregnant you should either... (and i am writing this assuming this is the case)

    a. Examine your own views and not others.
    b. Overlook your situation.
    c. talk to your parents
    d. You could go with adoption, but I think that's best if you actually know the couple and can get one right away. Many people go with closed/open adoptions, you should just do what's right for you.

    Now, how I feel about abortion? I PERSONALLY, disagree with it. To a point. Of course, I was about to be aborted one hour before, but then again, my mother was 23. Not only that, I'm not someone to support it because I was never in a position to need one. You can only have views in this type of situation if you are the only actually going through it, or have had to go through it.

    I think it matters as to the case as how far along you are as well, for instance, there is a pill you can take to terminate the pregnancy, but I think shoving scissors in the skull, when they are at the point where they can feel pain, is extremely cruel.

    The other thing is, would your body be healthy enough to give birth to a child?

    And assuming that it is not you, and say.. a rape victim, who was impregnated at the time, and they want nothing to do with their would be child, and they were considering an abortion, as opposed to an adoption, that child was never intended, nor was planned, and was forced onto that woman. I'm not saying she shouldn't keep the baby at all, but I am going to say, that could be a huge burden on her life and her mental stability, and an abortion should be allowed.

    I understand that in Christianity, normally all abortion is "bad" but also the Bible does state some verses that sometimes supports the abortion.
     
  3. alexxxx

    alexxxx Member

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    no i'm not pregnant but thanks for the concern.

    naw a friend of mine asked me the other day and I was just wondering how other people felt about it.
     
  4. kaminoishiki

    kaminoishiki Member

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    I say wear a condom

    Crisis averted.
     
  5. Hryhorii

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  6. LanSLIde

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    It's fucked up, but hey, the people that perform abortions probably aren't the ones I want reproducing anyway.

    Wrap that shit up! Abortion as birth control is fucked up, I would only consider it something to use in rape cases or accidental pregnancies when you can't support the child (although even then you could put them up for adoption).
     
  7. Reefer Rogue

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    My view is that it is the women's right to have an abortion because she is the master of her body. Her rights trump the potential person, a prince is not a king, he is a potential king. If someone used a condom, then they are actively trying to prevent a child being born, therefore abortion is justified imo, because they took the steps to prevent one. A foetus isn't even self-conscious, they don't know what they are and they can't express they want to survive. Before the 24 week mark i believe is justified. Though i don't condone people who have abortions as contraception, this should be a last resort. One shouldn't have an abortion to go on holiday or to keep a slim figure, that's pathetic and can be judged morally. Parents have a huge responsability for their children, they shouldn't bring them in to this world if they can't provide efficiently for them and provide them sufficient happiness. I refuse to judge people who have abortions because that's their choice. I reject the sanctity of life argument.
     
  8. Hryhorii

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    Again, not always effective.

    Also, in the case of adoption, does the woman have no rights now that she is pregneant? Should she be forced against her will to b an inhuman incubating machine because it ripped?
     
  9. applejollyrancher

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    I'm in the minority here/everywhere: I'm completely pro-life. Against abortion, against the death penalty, and against artificial birth control/contraceptives. Basically, any type of playing God.

    As for abortion itself, it's my view that no creation of life is an accident; nothing would come into existance solely for a person to get rid of later. There are two sides to a woman's right in the case of abortion: legal and metaphysical. People focus on the legal aspect; well, making something illegal does not impose on a person's innate right. Even if a woman doesn't have the 'right' to abort legally, she of course has the ability to terminate due to free will. Nobody can stop any other person from doing something, or make them do something, because every person is entitled to free will, and that is the right we have to acknowledge - not all these pseudo legal-rights that the government might say we have or don't have. They're trivial. The government is not God.

    All in all, I like to keep my church and state seperate. I don't like to dirty up my religion with politics.
     
  10. LanSLIde

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    There are always morning after pills.

    And no, they shouldn't be forced to have the child for adoption, it's just the moral thing to do. If she feels she isn't strong enough to have a baby, or can't deal with the physical/emotional pain of birth (or even a C-section), then she shouldn't have to have one. I support choice but not abortion.
     
  11. Hryhorii

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    So are you against birth control that prevents conception (aka fertilization of egg and implantation in the uterus wall)?
     
  12. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    I am very, very pro choice. A woman is in charge of her body and can choose whether to continue the pregnancy or not. No one should be forced to give birth. I use birth control and I garentee that if I got pregnant I would have an abortion. I don't want kids ever, and I don't want to give birth. Simple as that.
     
  13. applejollyrancher

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    I'm against any form of contraception that prevents any stage. Ex: the pill prevents ovulation, Plan B prevents conception, and condoms prevent fertilization. Any of those as well as sponges, surgery, etc. - basically anything that is not au naturale ;) NFP (natural family planning) is an option, but I'm still not even very comfortable with that.
     
  14. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    The problem with society today is it tries to justify the wrongs it does. Abortion is murder in my eyes. It is a lethal injection to a living creation. Whether or not it is a bad time, everybody can change their lives to accomadate a new baby. As impossible as it seems, one shouldn't justify abortion because it is better for the mother. If the teens didn't want to get pregnant, they should have used proper contraception. These days, you can't get enough information about these things. I can understand why a mother might wish to abort a pregnancy, but it is still murder. I am sorry if my views are a little harsh. I don't condemn the mother, because I know that in this life, there are so many difficulties. But morals should come first. This isn't 1984, where people really didn't know much about aids and getting pregnant etc. Now we are at the cutting edge of knowledge. I hope that all of Gods creations are given a chance to grow. I have no grudge against any mother who chooses to abort. But I feel that they need to look at what they have done and ask whether this is right, ethically. If it isn't, accept and move forwards.
     
  15. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    I and nobody else actually said that. Suppositions are incorrect.

    . State the obvious

    You stated the obvious then did it again. I tolerate all and think not less of those who have abortion.
     
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