How do you cope with the ignorant and uninformed?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by The Stig, May 5, 2006.

  1. The Stig

    The Stig Member

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    Becoming frustrated and disillusioned at my school. I came to northern vermont/burlington area in hopes of open minded people with true beliefs in bettering themselves and exploring the many aspects of human thought and life.

    Instead I seem to be surrounded by stubborn misinformed spoiled children, who with coke lined nostrils and stomachs full of tequila preach the safety of their drug use and how dangerous LSD is. I've heard it all here in the past man, "wait till someone kicks you in the back and you get a permanent flashback" " i have a friend in the mental hospital from one acid trip" "acid's worthless you could get permanently fucked up from one trip". All this minutes after ramming shitty cut with god knows what coke up their noses.

    How do you deal with the uninformed, the ignorant, and the closed minded? I mean for crissakes I've had one hard acid trip and several shrooms, I'm no tim leary preaching a new way of life. But I see serious personal and spiritual growth benefits from responsible psychedelic use. I've seen myself grow, become more confident and aware, it has quelled a certain amount of my anxiety... and conversely worsened it as I see my mindset alienating me from these people who are my "friends". They just have this brick wall up with no willingness to look outside of their comfort zones, to realize that everything they heard from someone who heard is based on nothing but urban legends and no fucking personal experience.

    How do these people so adamently denounce something they have NO idea what it's effects even are, positive or negative. In the past semester I've had 4 mushroom trips, one beautiful acid experience, and my GPA went from a 2.9 last semester to a 3.7 this semester. Yet I'm denounced as doing crazy drugs and playing with fire.

    Sorry for the rant... I just don't know how to deal with this. If I fight my case I'll alienate myself, look like some crazy acid head. Do I just turn a deaf ear to their ignorance and unwillingness to be exposed to what is recorded as an "astonishingly safe drug" which has had serious mental health and spiritual benefits throughout it's history.

    I guess if it doesn't 'fuck you up' or help you play beirut all night it's just some crazy hippie drug. God forbid people my age open their minds and welcome a little light and love into their lives.

    Disillusioned, and feeling lost, yours
    The Stig
     
  2. TheLizardKingMike

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    Personally, I don't. In my experience, people who believe all these crazy things like that acid makes your brain bleed and shit like that won't listen to you anyway. I mean if they don't want to actually put any real thought into it, let them believe it. I hate people lauging at me and thinking I'm nuts because I say that acid has no physical effect on the brain while they're sucking down a beer. Telling me that the articles and studies I've read are wrong, I refuse to waste my time and breath on the ignorant people anymore.
     
  3. silenceinc

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    let them be man ... it isn't worth the energy ... really.

    and keep yourself on a good track.

    this is the perfect example of what the fuckin war on drugs is doing to our world.

    it's sad but not lost.
     
  4. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    people get pretty adamant about their ignorance, and blindly defend their misguided programming without even being aware that what they spew is unoriginal, and based on systematic cultural brainwashing. People also fear what they are unfamiliar with, especially if it challenges their ignorance.
     
  5. Grapefruity

    Grapefruity Sunny Side Up

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    its like that man...

    here laced, almost soapbar hash is what their good clean hash is. When i bring them my stuff which is super clean and strong theyre like oh its laced blahblah..people have their heads in their asses
     
  6. The Stig

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    Thanks for the responses... although I definitley do NOT remember making this post haha.

    stupid xanax :p
     
  7. MeatWagon499

    MeatWagon499 Senior Member

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    this is a great post. whenever i dare say the word acid all i usually ever get is negative feedback and it gets under my nerves how misinformed people are as a whole. you just gotta learn to say fuck 'em. YOU know its not bad for you, you know how beautiful the experience was and how its changed your life eternally so who needs cokeheads when you've got a potentially great mind that can influence humanity for the greater good. fuck im high and rambling
     
  8. the anarchist

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    When I was in high school acid was more popular, so there was a lot of talk from smart people about how it opens the mind. Some people then, like today, were scared of it. One guy who smoked weed didn't want to even split one hit of acid with me (it turned out to be bunk anyway, or maybe I mishandled it).

    What I advise is not to talk openly about using psychedelics. Once in a while you may confront someone or a group of people open-minded about it, so that will be an opportunity to freely exchange thoughts. The internet also allows opportunities. But don't waste time talking about the wonders of psychedelics to cokeheads and especially to average people, because they believe, like I once did, that acid makes you insane. You are only going to damage your reputation. They might even talk about you behind your back, like: "He's the crazy kid who's done acid and all kinds of crazy sh*t."

    When you are done with college and enter the corporate world, even smoking weed is rebellious and attention-grabbing. You don't want most people to know you do any illegal drugs. It will hurt your reputation and your career. We live in an economically very efficient society, and that might have something to do with our nation's drug hysteria. People who do drugs tend to be idle, not necessarily because of the drugs. Drugs also impair judgment and thinking.

    I told my mom I am interested in Buddhism. She laughed at me. She thinks nutcases get interested in those types of things (she may be right, to an extent). Yet you can't say Buddhism harms the mind or causes health problems. The way these two things relate is that people get concerned when they see someone not conforming. It strikes them as awkward. Take the negative propaganda by government and schools against psychedelics and you are dealing with serious problems if "normal" people find out about your habits, especially as you get older.
     
  9. Tarantism

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    ill take a line from beck and say "i pay no mind". we are the progress of humanity, and they are evolutionary loose ends.
     
  10. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    polymer put it perfectly.

    Here's my perspective. It's tough to deal with, but after dealing with so many people like this, most of the time it's just better to let them be ignorant. Only people who do not know me would even try to spew this bullshit while I'm around; friends would straight up ask me. People I don't know like acquaintances have almost been tempted to have a physical confrontation with me because I am so blunt when people talk shit about drugs. I had a kid getting all crazy on me cause he claimed he knew the orange juice kid and I said that's a myth he got all pisst "I grew with the kid" this and that flipping out. But we're the crazy LSD-taking lunatics? right.

    I used to trip a lot, half the time when shit like this would go down I'd be tripping face and they wouldn't even know til afterwards and I told them.

    This is how it would go in present times for me:
    "Doesn't acid make people go crazy?"

    "I don't know, sure maybe some people. I'm on acid right now."

    A typical reaction is a dropped jaw wide eyed "wow I couldn't even tell you act completely normal." People seem to then change their opinion a bit.

    A long time ago my response to the go crazy question would have been a harsh rant about propaganda and how brainwashed everybody is, and how I could show evidence in medical journals etc etc, No point. They will just think you are a looney.


    BTW, the cokehead is always right. Remember that. It will save you loads of aggrivation.
     
  11. trippedelia

    trippedelia wow

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    Basically everyone but me is like that in my school/area that i know.

    I dont try and argue, its so in their heads, too hard to get out, ive had plenty of times ive explained everything to people and in the end they were just pretending to care but it was all a joke to them, i dont care anyway, some people will never know, they will live out their little lives glued to MTV and cool anorexic models, while the rest of us that have been willing to question this gross plastic wallmart will know better, we'll see the beauty, we'll see what its like to be alive.

    thats my ramble anyway haha.
     
  12. The Stig

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    I'm liking this place more and more. Big thanks to polymer, anarchist, and 2ce's you've provided a lot of insights in this post and others. Seeing why you guys are staples on this board.

    So we beat on, boats against current...
     
  13. napolean inrags95

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    i feel like the term "acid" in itself is scary to people, besides all the "you'll stare at the sun and go blind" propaganda stories. people think of lsd as some corrosive liquid that burns your skin on contact....nevermind that fucking lemon juice is an acid...
     
  14. Long_HairHippie

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    People anymore are scared of freedom. They are like an animal that has been kept in a tiny cage all of its life and can't or wouldn't know how to step out of the bounds of the cage. They are stuck inside the box, every thought and action they have or take is conrolled by it. They've been conditioned since birth to believe one thing and by hell or high water that's what they're going to believe. I wonder what kind of total system shock it would take to make the sheeple shun the flock.
     
  15. TheLizardKingMike

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    That just might work.
     
  16. Soberbeah

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    ripping out their throat, their ignorance won't spread much without a voicebox
     
  17. Poacher Diaries

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    long hair hippie put it best. People are scared to let go and feel free, and look at the world from an outside perspective, it's too overwhelming for them. A lot of people (around here at least) think acid is just made to fuck you up, make you feel numb and watch...well..."shit do shit". They don't know how to let their minds control drugs, they let the drugs control their minds.
     
  18. trippedelia

    trippedelia wow

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    yeah i think hes got it.
    i think when they start thinking different thoughts they think they are going insane, which leads a "bad" trip
     
  19. Tarantism

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    that has happened to me a few times in the past. fun...but at the same time no fun, ya know?
     
  20. Long_HairHippie

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    From the beginning of a person's life they are inculcated to believe and behave a certain way. But i think a lot of people are happy with their spiritual "blinders" on. It doesn't challenge them at all. They can live their mundane lives in bliss, but I guess that is what suits them. It reminds of the Plato's cave, how everybody is chained up looking at the shadows cast by the actors, instead of at the actors.
     

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