How come rock stars aren't a threat to the american way of life anymore?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Voyage, Jun 3, 2013.

  1. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Want to hear real musical talent in America? Go to a blues or jazz festival, or a classical concert. Those musicians aren't in it for the money, because there is no money in those genres. They do it because they love it.
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I simply listen to music I like, talent or not. It's great advise in essence (if I may say so myself) :D ;)
     
  3. odonII

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    What are you talking about? I think we are on the same team here.

    You don't have to like it, buy it or even appreciate it.
    Simon is very good at what he does, granted.
    But completely dominating the UK music scene he is not - that is a slight exaggeration on your part - perhaps to add more weight to your argument than it deserves.
    It is true that certain acts that pass his door make a big splash on the POP charts.
    Perhaps the real issue is with POP music, rather than Simon.
    I think 'radio friendly' music has been around for about 60 years or so.
    Perhaps pop (pardon the pun) on over to myspace or something *shrugs shoulders*
     
  4. Asmodean

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    I know we are, I was quoting it for emphasis. I thought I'd replace the ol' 'hear hear' by a duh for a change :sunny:
     
  5. odonII

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    Fair enough.

    Maybe he needs to turn over

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO8zuPoGkw
     
  6. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    How can anyone else dictate the type of music you listen to? Just don't listen to music that you don't like. I hate this assumption among so many people that anyone who listens to mainstream music is just a gullible sheep who has been brainwashed into it. Maybe they actually just like different music than you?
     
  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Rock stars aren't a threat to American, or anyone elses' way of life because most of the social taboos have already been broken in the U.S. and Europe.

    Early rock was about teenage love and sex and the mixing of the races and religions (in that it had black and gospel influences, and Jewish writers and singers like David Axelrod, Burt Bacharach, Carole King, etc.).
    Then along came drugs and warfare, and political morals.

    There are very few sexual taboos anymore, a little bit of race relation problems compared to the 50s and 60s, and a wide acceptance of various drugs. War is now common place, politics are in the gutter, but who cares?

    So what taboos can rock stars break today to upset the general population?
     
  8. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    It depends on where you live. There are places where there is considerable backlash against many of those progressive changes, and other places where the changes never did have a lot of impact.
     
  9. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    That's a great post Karen but i realized maybe i phrased this wrong...

    Yesterday, it was rock stars that were destroying America.
    Today we have new "enemies".

    It is a riff on all the "subversive" popular cultures that have come and gone, and somehow, the country is still here.

    Kinda thought the silliness of that way of thinking would shine through in Mr. Hicks video...
     
  10. Asmodean

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    Killed real music sounds a bit out of proportion to me. Although, I haven't been in America, perhaps it rings true over there :p
     
  11. deleted

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB3kQZJ2aLw"]Night Ranger - (You Can Still) Rock In America - YouTube
    like crack rock.. lol..
     
  12. acuarela

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    It doesn't. There's the internet, festivals, small shows. There's some good music out there, you just won't find them on TV or on the radio.
     
  13. Meliai

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    Well, as far as top 40 music if it didn't come from American Idol or whatever Simon Cowell show you guys have over there, it sounds just like it did.

    It makes little difference to me but I don't think you're really proving your point about there being a wide variety of music when you use top 40 music as your example.

    Now go outside of top 40 radio and there is a lot of amazing music out there. I can spend weeks just listening to nothing but music created within a 50 mile radius of where I live. There are magical things going on locally with music here and I assume other places have the same kind of scene.
     
  14. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't think they were ever a threat.

    Hysterical grown ups were a whole different issue. :)
     
  15. Karen_J

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    For a true right winger, anything new and/or different seems like a threat.

    Unfortunately, around here, country music and religious music are taking over. :( It's getting really hard to find any musical diversity.
     
  16. autophobe2e

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    probably because the rough edges (self conscious political intent) have been sanded away and eroded by years of savvy marketing. making statements with actual political aims runs the risk of alienating some of your audience. best to be vaguely anti-establishment but basically non-partisan, just enough edge to sell to the teenagers, but nothing more. for god's sake, don't say anything contentious, or "worthwhile" as some call it. crass said it best:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjk1Y_j8QE"]Crass - Punk Is Dead - YouTube

    also, the music now tends to be insular, no longer part of political movements, activism etc, where you could argue it was once central, or at least a recognizable aspect of social change.

    IMO, GG Allin took being shocking about as far as it can go, shocking is the new boring. irony's even worse.

    the new thing should be sincerity.
     
  17. Karen_J

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    Tell that to the country music executives in Nashville. :rolleyes: To make it in country music these days, you have to openly endorse the Republican Party.

    To see the ultimate example, look up the story of the Dixie Chicks.
     
  18. autophobe2e

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    don't know much about country music, but that makes sense i suppose. i was thinking more of rock, punk in particular.
     
  19. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk"]Classic Movie Line #5 - YouTube
     
  20. Karen_J

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