How Close Are We To Full Disclosure?

I'm talking about a head of state coming out publicly and announcing that we are not alone in the universe and have been being visited for 100's if not 1000's (more likely) of years now. Just interested in other people's opinions. It seems that not only is this topic getting more and more serious coverage by the MSM, but Hollywood and the music industry are putting out a lot more movies/songs pertaining to this topic. Perhaps this is all to condition the public and raise awareness so that when disclosure does occur, panic does not ensue. With hundreds of millions of people carrying camcorders (by way of cellular devices) wherever they go, unexplained sightings are increasing to the point where they can no longer be ignored or fluffed off. My personal opinion is that we are within five years of knowing the truth. Well I guess I shouldn't use the word "truth". Knowing that we are not "alone" is better. We may get disclosure without our (or another) government fully disclosing their actual agenda. Anyways....lots to think about. Hopefully they are benevolent.

 

The area of government/military responsible for dealing with extraterrestrial life has made it priority since day one that any such information will remain strictly secret until society in general is able to handle such information. Part of the task is to purposely allow certain stories about sightings, encounters, etc. to leak so as to get the public partly used to the possibility of life outside of earth.

There will be disclosure when those who possess such information are convinced that the public is ready for it.

 

When and if they feel that the information won't compromise their control.

 

Pretty soon it will be hard to contain. With all of these sightings it is getting to the point where when you see clips on the internet or hear a segment on TV about unidentified craft you don't even look up anymore (I do but I'm talking about the majority from what I can see). I guess this is all conditioning. I would also assume whomever is visiting us are the ones that have the control. Their level technology just to be able to reach has has to have evolved to a point where they have harnessed the use of wormholes, achieved inter-dimensional travel, or are able to bend space-time. Obviously that would put them light years ahead of us technology wise. So maybe the timeline for full disclosure is or will be set by them?

 

not at all

 

Well, one has to take into account the technology of the military forces around the world in the 21st century.

What's more likely, that that disc you saw in the sky had a couple of greys steering it, or that it was some sort of military vehicle?

Sure, I believe UFO's and aliens have visited earth. But given the number of sightings and the current state of technology, at least in America, it's more than likely most discs can be explained as something to do with the military, not extraterrestrials.

It's a known fact that the US and German militaries both have flying discs.

As for aliens being the ones who "run things". That's extremely unlikely, in science fiction sure, but not this earth my friend. The bank owners who are alienated from the rest of us, that's who runs things.

 

I'm not saying that they are in control or run things. I meant that the ball may be in their court when it comes to disclosure whether TPTB like it or not. It just seems one way or another something BIG is in the pipeline. Big changes. Everything is speeding up, more and more people are waking up and realising that what they see or hear on television or radio may not be what is actually happening. The Earth is changing, shifting, reacting......

 

That is a very vague response. I'm not exactly sure what this is in reference to?

 

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I found this the other day: FBI Roswell Memo Confirmed by Retired Intel Figures

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/230026

/TIME DEVICE ?

 

What is speeding up is the disappearance of the middle class. Our civil rights, our pensions, benefits, and freedoms in general; that's what is disappearing.

I wouldn't say the direction we're headed in is full disclosure of extraterrestrial information.

It's more likely that we're headed towards a new dark ages, the suppression of all information that is not deemed fit for us by all mainstream media, and complete surveillance.

That or hopefully people wake up before than, which would result in some sort of revolution, in which case martial law will be declared and the authorities will show their true colours when they start mowing people down in the streets. 'To serve and protect' - the interests of those who cut the cheques

 

Those files have been declassified for some time now. People are just now realising it because of the new easier to use "fbi vault" format. Most of those docs are just civilians who have sent letters or what not to gov. officials regarding extraterrestrial activity. Very interesting nonetheless.

 

I agree 100% with everything you have said here lunar EXCEPT the disclosure part You are spot on with your assessment as to where our society is headed. Question for you......if the majority of society were to "wake up" as we call it and actually begin to revolt, how much dissension do you think there would be among the American military if martial law were indeed declared?

 

Dissension among the military? None.

The dissension would be between the people and the military. I firmly believe that if that were to happen, if people came out in large enough numbers, the government would not hesitate one bit to use the military against the people to shed their blood in the streets. They've done it before and they'll do it again.

Sorry, not to get off topic (extraterrestrials) but to add to that; look into what happened at the G8 protests in Toronto last year. Innocent people who had their hands in the air, showing peace signs with their hands were clubbed across the face, beaten, had their faces smashed with sheilds, had rubber bullets fired at them, were arrested, physically beaten by large groups of cops, etc.

Many of the cops who beat people had covered up their names and badge numbers with black tape, and they gave false names and identity numbers on police reports.

In the future, if this were to happen again, the police won't be wearing uniforms that require them to show their name and badge number.

If that were to happen in more than one area in large enough numbers...

The government would not give in, and it would not change it's ways. It is much too far beyond that. If it happened 80 years ago, yea, maybe. But now, the government no longer cares about the people and it no longer respects their rights as people. They don't have to, because the public is 100% completely and wholly expendable. They don't need you, they don't need to respect your rights as a human being. They just need a human being (any) human being to make money off of.

That's all we are now... You know when you drive by a farm and see a large field full of cows who are either going to be milked, sold, or killed for their meat? Well, that's us, but we're money cows, nothing more.

 

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And even if the military did refuse , it would be the lower ranks of enlisted and officers . The upper military leaders have to know full well by now what they are supporting and stand for the same ideology .

What's even more alarming is the privatization of our military . Mercenaries like blackwater would have no problem carrying out those orders. Especially foreign mercenaries . Who put greed above human life . Just like the Hessians did in the revolutionary war .

Rome's military too was heavily privatized and dependent on mercenary forces in her ranks at the time when Rome fell . And yes we are nothing more than a commodity now that can be traded used up and discarded .

As far as FULL disclosure ? No , I don't believe FULL disclosure will ever happen unless the aliens take over and disclose themselves .

As close as we may ever get is the military one day publicly stating that we are not alone . I do think that day is fast approaching , not because THEY want it revealed . But because of the pressure of other countries governments releasing what they know thus putting pressure on the United States government , to where they can no longer deny their existence .

However I don't consider that full disclosure . Full disclosure to me means how long have they known of their existence , lied , covered up , put our "citizens" lives at risk knowing we were not masters of our skies . Are they in contact with them , and if so when did said contact begin ? Are they working with them from joint hidden bases ? What technology have we gotten and use ? Have we gone maned farther in space than the moon ?

Full disclosure to me means everything THEY know and all the secret knowledge THEY gained since first contact . And I just don't see that ever happening . Hell even if they did come clean and tell the truth , I don't think I'd believe it anyway . As I don't believe they EVER tell the truth about anything , EVER ! Even about benign stupid shit they lie .

Besides do they really have to tell us that we are not alone in the infinity of space ? I think any rational thinking human being has already made that hypothesis . But yes your right it would be nice to finally hear the truth .

I think it's arrogant for anyone to think that in the vastness of infinite space , that we ( as flawed and evil and corrupt as we are ) are all alone . God I sure hope not !

 

Full disclosure to me would be like I said, any head of state coming forward and publicly stating that we are/have been being visited. Papa - If you think of full disclosure in terms of making public all files, all knowledge, all everything then no I agree with you, we'll never get that.

As far as the military aspect I believe that there are tens of thousands of soliders who would have nothing to do with mowing down the American public under any circumstances. Sure they would be the lower ranks, but numbers are numbers and if it would come to the point of martial law and our military began to take aim at the public, I don't think it would be as easy to keep us down as they think it would....

 

right..now...the universe is breathing life at every angle...that disclosure enough...?

 

I feel like I'm crazy when I think about full disclosure. I think about what that really means for the world and it's nuts. We're not alone and we've been visited.

 

Very well put. It's happening all over - in more subtle ways - in Illinois it's illegal to videotape a police officer and they're charging people left and right for it - somehow they've managed to lump this in with illegal wiretapping - so I guess if you can mute the sound on your recording device, you're safe, but I wouldn't count on getting that device back after they've confiscated it, at least not with any controversial footage intact. Yet I'm seeing more and more government surveillance cameras all the time. If that's not and indication of facism, I don't know what is.

But back to the topic - I think we've been getting groomed for full disclosure since the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still". Lately, I've been considering the possibility that their might be something to this whole "reptillian government take over" thing. The actions of our governments are certainly becoming increasinlgy anti-human - but I still chaulk it up to unbridled and shameless greed - a very prevalent human characteristic, unfortunately. I don't think the panic would be as bad as say even twenty years ago, if they "disclosed" today, but the upheaval would be still be bad enough, I think, for the government to want to suppress the truth a bit longer, or indefinitely. The United States has nothing to gain from it, and much to lose. I think when it happens (and seems to be starting already) it will take some nation beyond the influence of the U.S. who provides unquestionable and unsuppressable proof before the U.S. would ever acknowledge what it knows. I think the same is probably true of the U.K., Russia, Australia, China and Canada.