Horses

I was just wondering who else here owns horses? If so, then please post a pic or two of your horsey.

I have one black mare. Her name is Blackie, she's about 6 years old. She was a rescue. I've had her for a full year now and I wouldn't trade her for any other horse on earth. I love her to pieces.
(If you look on my profile I have some pics of her in an album)

I also (as of May 19, 2008) have a new baby colt! His name is Bruno. I have some pics of him on an album in my profile.

Just thought I'd ask. Hopefully I'll get a reply or two.
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......Is he holding a backpack in his mouth?? (he's so cute!!!)

 

Haha yeah it's a little bag.

I had put my bag in the grain bucket and the bucket was on the ground. He came over and was investigating it. Then he picked it up the bag and started tossing it around. It was so cute.

 

Horses can be very playful. I don't have a horse, but I used to live with someone who did, and went riding all the time. I loved it. I could spend all day in the saddle, up on State land, by Charleau Gap.

We had a brown/white appaloosa named Snowbird, and a (smaller) brown Mexican range horse/bronco named Buddy. I liked riding Buddy, he had a smooth walk. Snowbird's gait made me hurt all over.

 

Yes they can be very playful xD

We have a gray horse, Smokey, who has the most lovely gait of any horse I've ever ridden. (She was a rescue as well) It feels like you are one with her. It's so amazing. She a mixed horse. But she has some Appaloosa and Tennessee Walker in her. Bruno is her son, so I am hoping that maybe he inherits her lovely gait. That would be awesome!

But, on the other hand we also have a Tennessee Walker gelding who has the most rough run EVER. He's definitely not naturally gaited, lol. It is nothing but sheer pain and agony. No matter how many times I ride him I never get used it. As a matter of fact I make it a point not to run him when I'm on him, lol. It's way too painful.

 

This may be rude, but ah well, I'd just like to remind you that breeding grade horses is the equivalent to breeding mutts. It really shouldn't be done. There is such a low sell factor, and unlike dogs and cats, many of these horses end up at auction and then to the slaughter house.

Myself, I wouldn't even consider breeding to anything that is subpar.
There are enough backyard breeders...

 

Who are you to say what should and shouldn't be done? Why is it so wrong to breed a Grade horse if it is going to be loved and have a nice home? My Black horse is a mixed horse and I love her to pieces. I don't care that she doesn't have a fancy pedigree. I didn't breed her she was a rescue, btw.

I didn't breed his dam either. She was a rescue also. She is loved and has a great home. What does it matter if she's a grade?

And for your information I didn't breed Bruno either. His dam came to us pregnant. I love him just the way he is. I don't care that he can't be registered with an official organization. Why should you think less of an animal just because they are mixed and don't have a fancy pedigree? That is so wrong. SO VERY WRONG.

I love all my animals for what they are. I don't get hung up on crap like that. How dare you even post that on this thread. Take your shit elsewhere!

This thread was meant for people to post pictures of their horses.. not for people like you to come in here with your crap talk of "a horse isn't good unless it has a fancy pedigree, blah blah blah".

Edit:
All the horses that I, and my family, own are rescues. Some are registered with actual organizations while others are grades. I don't think any less of the grade horses just because they aren't registered and can't be labeled a certain breed. I love them all the same. They are loved and have a great home!

 

I must strongly agree with any person who accepts a rescue animal (horse, dog, cat, pig, goat, chicken, etc.) into their home without any preconceptions other than doing the right thing in this life and by all life.

I am inserting a photograph of my presupposed registered miniature horse, who is really a pony, yet this made no difference in me paying five times her value to get her out of a bad situation and on my three acres where she is safe and loved.

I named her "Ivory" since she is all white with blue sky eyes and I am proud to say that I spent $2500.00 on her when I knew she was only worth a fraction of the price; yet my dogs and I out on a weekend drive could not drive by her restricted (10x50ft) pasture and not act on her best interest.

I do recall the cruel woman I bought her from telling me that she came with two breedings, yet after I wrote her the check, I told her outright that she would never see me our my "Ivory" again, since I considered her one the cruelest of people on earth and I hope she enjoyed her ill gotten gains at the expense of my boyhood compassion.

Anyway, I do not mean to be judgmental in any way, but I have always believed since a very early age that all life is precious on this earth and that their company to us homo sapiens is a blessing in this journey we call the "human experience" and without them the lack of the most important emotive feelings would make us less than our true potential.

 

Aww!! She's so gorgeous! Seeing a picture like that and hearing a story like that just melts my heart! It's good to meet other people who feel the same way I do about animals.

 

Is it a stretch that your horses, grade and all, came to you as RESCUES? I see that ALL too often, especially in grade horses. More so, your horses have crap conformation, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. That's a sign of poor breeding, and I'm not talking lineage. Poor conformation leads to MANY different medical issues. I've seen all too often, horse owners breed their horses and can't sell them, can't feed em, and consequently can't take care of them. Have you ever heard of professional recommend you breed a mutt dog? No? Why would it be different from horses? Horses are even more expensive to take care of. I sincerely hope you geld your colt.

Anyways, here are a couple pictures, since this is what the thread's all about.

 

You know what take your shit elsewhere. I don't give a good goddamn if you think the horses I own are ugly. I don't care if you think they are mongrels and aren't fit to live. I love them and care about them. I have given them all great homes. I treat them the way they should be treated. I don't look down on them and neither should you.

Are you trying to hurt my feelings or get back at me because I called you out? You obviously are by saying my horses are ugly. Let me tell you what beauty is in the eye of the beholder - you might want to learn what that means! I think my horses are beautiful because of what they are on the inside. That's all that matters to me. You can take your crap elsewhere!

I love them the way they are and it's people like you that make me absolutely sick. People like you with your critical eyes that can't accept anything unless it's 100% perfect and flawless. You can just take all your comments and shove it.

Your comments just further prove to me that you are such an ugly person on the inside. Which makes you ugly on the outside.

The horses that I have posted pictures from came to us because their owner died for your information. So of course he couldn't take care of them or feed them! HE IS DEAD!

If you can't accept something for what it is and love it despite what all you think is wrong with it then you don't need to own animals!

 

and I'm not sure if you caught it or not. But I clearly stated that I DID NOT breed any of the horses that I am talking about. Every single horse I have came to me as a rescue.

So stop going off on me about grades as though I am actively breeding them and contributing to some sort of out of control problem!

You should be ashamed of yourself coming on here and saying shit to me. When I have rescued these animals and given them great homes. You act as though they don't deserve love, you act as though they don't deserve to live.

Tell me.. Should I send my horrible conformation horses off to the glue factory because YOU don't like the way they look, because YOU don't like grades? Maybe I should huh? Yeah, I'll do that..

Edit:
By the way your horses are lovely. It looks like you love them and take great care of them. Now, why don't you think my horses deserve that same love and care? Why do you think your horses are so much better than mine? They all eat on the same end and shit out the other.

 

Whoa cowgirl,

Never once did I say your horses were ugly, that they don't deserve a good loving home, or that I hate grade horses.

That horse sticking out his tongue, yeah, he is a grade paint.

I DID however state that your horses have flawed conformation. When I look at buying horses, if their conformation isn't excellent or close to, I wont buy, and I KNOW I'm not alone. Conformation problems, like I said previously, go hand in hand with soundness issues. Who wants to buy a lame horse? I'm extremely sour at people who breed grade horses, especially grade horses with flawed conformation, because I am sick and tired of seeing these horses get treated horribly. These horses are a dime a dozen, and most of the time they are treated that way. Breeding horses, in my opinion, should be treated as an art. Good breeders know what goes together well, and what shouldn't be done.

I realize now that you didn't breed these horses, and I sincerely hope you don't continue to breed them because your colt is so cute and fun. Of course colts are fun and cute. Past that, if they don't have nice conformation, a good disposition, and decent lineage, their future could be at stake. I'm not saying that to be mean; that's just the way it is.


Furthermore, I think a lot of people buy horses because they are beautiful or they just ove them. In real life, there is so much to be known, and I'm sadden at the lack of knowledge MANY horse owners actually have. There is nothing wrong with thinking horses or beautiful and what not, but if you're going to have a horse, for craps sake, get educated, and realize it doesn't come over night.

 

It just irritated me that you were saying things against these horses and talking down on me like I had done something wrong in the first place. I felt your comments weren't needed, that's not what I had intended this thread to be about. It was to post pictures of your horses and tell a little about them.

I took your conformation comment as meaning you thought they were ugly. How else was I supposed to take, your horses "have crap conformation"? I didn't breed them and I understand that they aren't the most beautiful horses on the earth. Honestly, what horse has 100% perfect conformation. Nothing is perfect. I just felt that you could have kept that comment to yourself. It's not like these horses asked to be born, or asked to look like that.. no more than you asked to be born, or you asked to look the way you do.

I didn't buy these horses because I thought they were perfect. I bought them because I fell in love with them and I knew I could give them a good home. I don't get hung up on things like does this horse have perfect corformation, does this horse have a fancy pedigree and all that. I love them for what they are. They are still horses regardless of their conformation. I don't care about that at all.

No, we don't breed horses. Bruno IS getting gelded. We have accumulated all of our horses over the years.. from various places and various people. They are all horses that nobody wanted and nobody cared for. We took them in and gave them good homes regardless of what they looked like or what their conformation was. I just makes me mad that people get hung up on that. I hate people who are very critical and can't accept something if it isn't 100% correct.

I understand your points on what YOU are looking for when you buy a horse. But not everyone is like you. Not everyone has the same motives. They still deserve a good life, regardless of what they look like, you know?

I agree with what you are saying about people breeding grade horses that aren't worth very much. But, I don't agree with your other points. I know plenty of people who have bred grade horses that love them and care for them - they have lived great lives. They have the best homes. You can't change what other people do, if they want to breed Grades they can. You might not agree with it, and I might not agree with it.. but there's nothing we can do. That's life. Also, I really didn't appreciate you hijacking the thread and turning it into your own personal crusade against grade horses and grade horse breeders.

If it's in your heart then there is nothing wrong with owning them. Nothing wrong with taking it upon yourself to teach yourself. I'm also not sure if you are directing your bottom response me specifically but I myself am constantly educating myself on how to be a better horseperson. I have had horses all my life and I know quite a lot about them, but I don't pretend to know it all. No one knows it all.. not you, not Jane Doe not John Doe. No one.

I know there are a lot of idiot assholes who shouldn't be allowed to own horses, much less breed them. You don't have to tell me that, I know. Almost all of these horses previous owners were dumb idiots, like I said, who shouldn't have been allowed to even own them. But, that's just life. We might not like it, but there it is.

I was also a bit annoyed at you because I hate it when people say things against these horses - any of them. They have had it rough enough in their lives and they don't need more abuse from you or anyone else (whether it be verbal, physical or mental). I just wish people could be more positive about things. These horses are here, they are alive, they are living breathing creatures who deserve a nice life, deserve to be treated decently and deserve someone to think the world of them no matter how bad you might think they look.

If it wasn't for me these horses would probably end up at the glue factory. Lord knows you wouldn't take them! *sigh*

 

' ......holy shit...... damn, people!!

The horses I used to ride were grade... I mean, Snowbird was "appaloosa" but he was probably other stuff too. And Buddy was just, well, Buddy. They were geldings. They were both great horses. I miss them.

 

Yeah I know this thread has gotten off topic.

I know what you are saying. Some of the best horses I've known have been grades and I sure thought the world of them. I didn't care whether they were grades or not.

 

If it helps any, I'm 'grade' too..... Mostly German, some Norwegian, a little Polish and somewhere in there a bit of Cherokee (not enough to brag about - though I wish!!!). Who knows, maybe even some Roman and Irish....

Hell if I know!!!!!

 

frieden makes a pretty good point i guess... horses with bad conformation are not very desireable and could end up with shitty lives because no one will buy them. but i dont think that being a mutt is that big of a deal. sure, many horse owners want pure stock for breeding or show, but if the horse has a good temperment, conformation and appropriate training, it shouldnt have any trouble getting a good home even if it is a mixed breed.
i work for a level III coach who trains horses to sell for competition and ALL of hers have at least two breeds in them, most of them draft crosses with PMU dams... so rescue horses. and they are great horses and she sells them for a shitload of money because shes well known as a trainer and event rider and everyone knows her horses are some of the best.
so i certianly dont think its wrong to breed different breeds together, but i do agree that no one should be breeding flawed horses.
anyway, heres some pics:

feliz, i helped train her-


picasso, a neighbors foal and his mom, cola-


that all i can find now, i will try for more.

 

My whole argument against Frieden was not that horses with bad conformation are less desirable or even that breeding grade horses means they won't be worth very much. It all had to do with the fact that she came on this thread and started talking down to me as if I had done something wrong in the first place. She just assumed a whole bunch of things that weren't even so and if she would have asked rather than jumping to conclusions this mess would have been avoided. I clearly stated that I didn't breed any of these horses I own and that I also do not breed horses. Thus, I am not breeding horses with incorrect conformation nor am I breeding grades.

Also, I didn't appreciate her comment about how my horses have "crap conformation". I KNOW that they don't have the best conformation. But, I rescued these horses and have had them over a year and have given them great homes. It's not like I bred them or anything. As I said, if it wasn't for people like me these horse would probably end up in the slaughterhouse! Maybe if she would worded it "flawed conformation" rather than "crap conformation" as she did in her last post I wouldn't have gotten so irritated about it. But, she didn't.

Also, none of the horses I own are used for show, nor breeding (as I said earlier).

I understand those points you have made scatteredleaves and I do not disagree one bit. On the contrary I wholeheartedly agree.

All the horses that I have gotten as of lately have been mixed breed horses that have had little or no training. I am currently working with a young Tennessee Walker/American Saddlebred filly that has never had anything done with her. It's quite a task but she is progressing very nicely considering. The man I got her from is a complete moron who shouldn't even own horses. *sigh* I know when it's all said and done though she will be one awesome horse.

By the way those horses are so beautiful! I love that little foal! Is he/she gray? or is that just the light?