homosexuality

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by dark_hippie, Dec 10, 2004.

  1. dark_hippie

    dark_hippie Member

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    i was just wondering what everyone else's views are on this very hard subject.
    me? i find it a very hard one. many of my friends are gay, and they are close ones. i find it difficult as my faith is telling me they are doing wrong but my heart is telling me that they are my friends are that is where my loyalties should lie.
    anyways any opinions would be gratefully received!
     
  2. peace_is_possible

    peace_is_possible Member

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    hey sweetie, I completely understand where you are coming from, when I was younger and a hardcore christian I didn't know what to think either, but since I'm older I've realized that they only want to find love too. They arn't hurting themselves or anyone else by being gay {unless they are having unpertected sex} and also It's not our place to judge, If you are worried about what God thinks about you being friends with them just think about the fact that even jesus was friends with theives and liers. If we were friends with just christians then who would we be able to bring to God. they are probably great people if they are your friends, just try to love and except them for who they are. good luck and God bless!
     
  3. stealthsheep

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    Before I carry on, I should point out that I am not a christian.

    From what I was taught when I was younger, all love comes from God. The ultimate symbolism of God's love is the love between a man and a woman and the end result, procreation. But I stress, all love comes from God, that is the most important thing you must accept in your religion.

    To me there is no concept of good or bad, the concept of an all powerful being is difficult for me to comprehend. But I do know that love is the most important thing in my life, and it should be in yours
     
  4. ChiefCowpie

    ChiefCowpie hugs and bugs

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    Many homosexual prostitutes are seen stalking the halls of Congress in their attempt to take over the world as using public restrooms here and throughout the world has become dangerous.
     
  5. dutch_diciple

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    I defenitley agree with being friends with homosexuals!

    But there is a difference between being gay and practicing homosexuality. But for all people there is hope for salvation, we should never give up hope for them. I say this easily now, but I gotta say for me its often more easily said then done. I pray that Jesus filles my heart with love and friendship more and more. And we really should seek to get to know 'em and understand them. But accepting it....well thats a different thing!
     
  6. thumontico

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    That is an incredibly insensitive comment in its implication.

    People who believe homosexuality is immoral are conversely themselves immoral. If the desire is freedom, as it is in America and the the majority of the world, then freedom should have no bounds [to a 'reasonable' extent], especially bounds set by a God in a State that is supposively secular.

    America is extremely backwards in many areas comparatively to the rest of the world (especially with neo-cons in office). Among other inconsiderations, is the belief that we have the Right to decide the life of another. Reasonable laws guide our society, not senseless 'moral' issues instigated by people afraid of change. Even though homosexuality has been around FOREVER, as acceptable as heterosexuality in early Greek and Roman societies.

    Socialization will betray you in every case, its time for a revaluation of values.

    It disturbs me when I see blind nationalists proclaiming America's greatness after he shat on his fellow citizen's civil liberties.
     
  7. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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  8. Disarm

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    amen brother :H (very christian of me, that phrase..)

    I think that to judge anyone is a horrible, lowly, pathetic thing to do, and to believe that anyone is less, worse, less holy, bad, sinful, or evil is one of the worst things we could ever do to one another. I'd also like to point out that many anti-gay campaigners have had their life turned upside down by a close friend/family member being gay, and that campaigner actually changing their views completely. There was a congressman that did that, forgive me for forgetting his name..

    I would far rather a homosexual sister than a heterosexual sister who is unhappy or in a bad relationship. Which is great, because that's the way it turned out. You hear all these people proclaiming the sanctity of marriage and the sinfulness of homosexuality, yet when you point out how heterosexual marriage is totally abused by heterosexuals in the first place (britneys wedding is a clear example, abusive spouses, cheating..).. apparently homosexuality is worse? Live and let live. There are far more important things to worry about than the gender of people's partners, and I suggest that those so concerned with homosexuality should take their time to focus on things like helping those in bad marriages, to enforce the belief that there is actually a holiness left in marriage to protect.
     
  9. PLyTheMan

    PLyTheMan Senior Member

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    As long as you dont hurt anyone, you're not hurting God, right? "What you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me" So, if your a man and you love another man, you're still esentialy loving God and the person he made and you're not hurting the person, so I can't see it being wrong. I'm not really Christian, but from a long childhood of christianity, I think that makes sense by Christian beliefs =D

    God isn't going to hate you for seeing past petty things like preference of sex and valuing people for who they really are.
     
  10. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    if you feel your faith and heart are contradicting each other, then maybe it is not your faith you are following, but the faith of somebody else
     
  11. dutch_diciple

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    "You hear all these people proclaiming the sanctity of marriage and the sinfulness of homosexuality, yet when you point out how heterosexual marriage is totally abused by heterosexuals in the first place (britneys wedding is a clear example, abusive spouses, cheating..).. apparently homosexuality is worse?"

    No-one in this thread said that. Ofcourse cheating is not less sinfull as homosexuality! The Bible says that homosexuality IS a sin (unlike some churches that say that a christian can be a practicing homosexual) and must be dealt with like other sins: laid down, repented, and not done again. Note that homosexuality is not the only form of sexual immorality, there is adultery, pornography, unclean thoughts and desires...all as sinfull as homosexuality. And all should be dealt with the same: laid down at the cross, repented, and not done again.

    Just because someone is a homosexual does not mean that we couldn't or shouldn't love him/her! however, this does not mean that a christian approve of this! I'm not gonna compromise between the Bible and a more social acceptable opinion.
     
  12. northernlehigh97

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    I Corinthians 6:9-11...Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


    God loves all people whatever their ethnic or political background or their social orientation...
     
  13. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    It's just sex, people.... lighten up and have some fun.


    Besides, you can always pray to have your sins taken care of! :rolleyes:
     
  14. northernlehigh97

    northernlehigh97 Senior Member

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    It's not just. Once you have sex with someone you give them your soul. And yes you'll be forgiven. But if you have that attitude, then you would keep doing it, and that's when it becomes bad...
     
  15. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I didn't give my soul to the only girl I've shagged. I've still got it (as far as I know)... it's just shagging, nothing more, nothing less. Just harmless fun.
     
  16. northernlehigh97

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    See most people who enter a serious relationship and wait to have sex until after their married last. Most people who are promiscuous before they get married have a better chance of it not working. Besides once you have sex don't you think about it all the time? I much more important things to worry about. And I can have fun without sex.
     
  17. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Well so sucks to be me then! :D

    No, not really... back when I was a little kid I did, but I've growed up since then :rolleyes:

    haha who the hell am I kidding, free-love defines my life :D
     
  18. northernlehigh97

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    Actually I'm happier than shit!!! I can have fun without it. So it doesn't suck to be me. I quite glad that I can bring virginity into a relationship! We just have different opinions. And see all you can think about is sex. So sex has corrupted your mind.
     
  19. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    It's not all I think about. Guitar fits in there, and music. I actually value those two more than sex. But hey it's not my fault that sex comes along with guitar-playing.. :rolleyes:
     
  20. northernlehigh97

    northernlehigh97 Senior Member

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    Well I didn't realize that...I can only play the harmonica. I'll make sure I stay away from guitar playing...LOL
     

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