Hinduism stored in the LSD Akashic record

By the LSD Akashic Record I mean also the LSD Morphogenetic field.

If your not familiar with this concept it's the idea that basically different substances tune you into the frequency of that substance and there is essentially information stored on that frequency. Each substance will essentially tune you into a different set of information. And the information in a substances akashic record is basically the culmination of all the past experiences of people who took that substance.

Now I think that Hinduism is stored on the LSD akashic record, and it was largely put there by Leary.

Im curious to know, do you think this is absurd? Do you feel like comprehending hinduism became very easy after LSD? Because anyone who has taken a sufficient dosage of LSD I find has almost an intuitional understanding of hinduism.

 

The hundreds of hallucinogens before LSD's creation tells me no..

 

I dont quite follow you...

 

Datura was a popular one in the region of origin iir. Or am I getting my entheogenic history messed up again?

 

I bet there was information there before Leary put it there.

 

Geber (Jabir ibn Hayyan), who is "considered by many to be the father of chemistry" and he was Muslim... not sure im following you..
LSD is an over hyped mass produced 60's drug.. .. if it was never such, it wouldnt of been so..

 

I think it's very absurd.
Without making any mentions to belief (that somehow everything stretches beyond the boundaries of itself to interact with everything else), there is no fundamental, objective "Hindu" essence, there is only the text upon which various interpretations of it are based on. Within the context of your theory, there would only be maybe Hinduism as Leary understood it, not Hinduism in it's absolute form, because A) It doesn't exist, and B) if it did for Leary to put it there he would have had to completely understood it in it's entirety.

 

how would you know?

 

Because it makes no sense. It's a mythology and a school of thought compiled by thousands of people through thousands of years. What is "essence" about that? Where is it so clean cut? What is the precise "Hindu essence"?
There is no veritable, objective Hindu, there is only the interpretations of the people who believe in the thoughts and writings of others that are now labeled "Hindu", and those interpretations are as diverse as the people who hold them.

 

I dont mean that the akashic record of a drug has to do with the creator of it. If thats what you mean. I mean it has to do with the people who used it.

Like mescaline and cactus makes me encounter many Native American motifs. Native American belief could be said be heavily imprinted into the Akashic record of cactus.

Mushrooms are so damn ancient and used by every culture, that you couldn't really pin point a single culture to them. But I can tell that there is ALOT of information imprinted into the mushroom akashic record from all over the place.

The MDMA akashic record is heavily imprinted with glowsticks and neon things and trance music it seemed to me. Not as much sustinence or real information as more pure psychedellics... but still had an akashic record

cannabis seems to me have a considerable amount yogic information contained in it's akashic record. But theres also alot of other things in cannabis as well..

LSD gives me kind of a swirling circus motif with hellish things which I assume came from Ken Kesey and merry prankster side of things. Intermixed with what seemed to be alot of hindu themed spiritualism, which I assume came from the Leary side of things. The overbearing presence of hindu motif always seemed very prominent to me.

 

the words are not the essence, the words are just metaphors produced by many different people over time. The words are just a map. You know the map is not the actual territory, it's just a map. No one would believe that a territory exists from just seeing the map. But go to the territory yourself and the map will then make perfect sense.

I am not so much refferring to a school of thought with hinduism, while it could be considered that, I am not refferring to just words in a book, a map. I am refferring more to a school of perceptions. Almost like, volumetric, full colored forms, potentially multi-dimensional forms.

 

There is only perception and interpretation of perception.
One is the same for everyone, the other is different for everyone.

 

While I am not perfectly at ease with your methods of reasoning (ie, morphogenetic fields) i agree wholly with your conclusions. My 5 hit trip was done with my friend who has a hindu background, and he suddenly realized what it was all about, and why his parents had asked of him certain things throughout his life. And it made sense. Hinduism is a sort of daliesque religion, and lsd is very daliesque as well. it is the whole sort of net of these meta-morphic conceptual frameworks for religion, art, science, whatever, that strike me as having commonality with lsd.

 

whats wrong with morphogenetic field theory?

 

I wish I knew more directly about these akashic records, supposedly there are states of consciousness where you can clearly conceive of everything written into these records.

I do see how different archetypes, and different emotions, seem to be collectively trapped in these substances.

I recall a shaman woman from mexico explaining how the psychedelic era, and the popular street use now a days has ruined their collective spirituality in the mushroom. She said the kids using them in wrong ways is effecting the mexican shamans from getting the most profitable use out of it.

I have always noticed that the same kind of experiences happen to our hipforums community around the same time. It seems whenever somebody writes a trip report on something they learned, the next person in a line has a similar experience tied into that. As if the knowledge is growing collectively.

Now as for the hindu thing, I'm sure its in there, but I'm sure a lot of other religous stuff is in their too. Maybe hindu is strong in there from such people like leary. Is their other religions in their from other planets too? That is something to think about.

Idk one of my best trips started of with a Hare Krisna mantra. Haha, 2 minutes of saying hare krisna, hare krisna, next thing I know I'm engulfed in a flame of awareness and understanding, in samadhi, and tripping my ganesh off!

Theres a little mckenna in the mushrooms. Try to contact him, his presence will be known! A couple trips, when I'm sitting in the line of ultimate knowing, and all of sudden my body flashes back and forth between myself and mckenna, and I get the feeling hes been here before, and its a very very unique feeling, one that is very hard to explain.

I believe that our hipforums community has made a good collected effort in bringing the spirituality of these items back. Remember what religions matters most, life itself! Bring the good vibes peeps!

 

Another thought. Hindus make trippy stuff. They are the trippiest of the religions. All those colorful rugs, and 1000 armed gods, and hundreds of things all meshed together in one pattern. Those hindus have been secretly eating acid the whole time!

Remember that one trip report, forgot who posted it, but it he was talking about seeing Ganesh in a tree his first time on acid, and he had never seen Ganesh before, and the next day he looked him up and was like "whooooa"?

 

I have always felt a pull towards buddhism while tripping. Though I was raised a christian, I learned many basic and fundamental ideas of buddhism while tripping out (dependent co-arising, a couple of the 5 aggregates, the idea that nothing has a permanent essence, etc).

I don't think that LSD has a religion stored in its vaults... LSD can create a chemical induced ego loss. Once you loose yourself and attatchment to things and labels... its like a taste of nirvana

 

I simply question whether it has any basis in reality.

Whether or not it does, LSD definitely smacks of being some kind of hindu sacrament, but so does DPT to me. I think a lot of it also has to do with what we already know, and what we read into one thing from another thing. LSD introduced me to hinduism which introduced me to LSD. They are simply complementary systems of activity, pointing to the same wordless thing; captured sufficiently for this discussion by the term "interconnection" i believe. lsd and hinduism also have themes of "gesturing" or "acting" or "play" to them. lots of thematic semblances, i just wonder if that is just our personal bias, someone else may take lsd and swear that it affirms the old testament or something. though i would think with some basic conversation they may revise that statement. who knows?

 

Morpho genetic field would be mind, not Hinduism and LSD. Categorical processing.

 

Tripping seems to have bits and pieces of all religions in it. I always believed it to be very much like the tao religion.

It doesn't give you a temple to pray in, it shows you nature is your temple, it shows you that all that is needed to be religious is within the natural world.

I find it very flowy, there is very much "a way" a "tao" to it, and each substance reflects in their own way the eternal tao.

Also very buddhist like too. It is not belief base, it is scientific, it wants you to be mindful, discover the very depths of your mind.