Hillary, Obama, or McCain??

Lets face it the majority of us are blind to the fact, that the majority of the people in the United States want a large government policing and controling us, policing the world, and going against the constitution in order to fund their interests, preserving Israel. We want it and were blind to it. The essential tool through propaganda to make us feel we need it, even creating a "false flag" attack, where a government attacks itself and blame it on an enemy and go to war. In order to further take away our sense, of individual freedom.

None of these candidates, want a smaller government, with more choices left for the people, and states to decide.

Except for Ron Paul, but the media never covers him, and makes us feel these are the three, because the people who own the major news corporations interests are being questioned.

So what am I left with, a false sense of change, due to race and gender?
Thats not what real change is. I wonder when the climax is going to come, and just what the interests of our so called leaders are.

 

Exactly... Everybody would be best t wake up and just write Mickey Mouse or Ron Paul's name on the ballot ... oh no wait... cant do that anymore either its all Electronic

... I wish people would stop and look at the big picture they would realize all these little things even the way the VOTE IS ELECTRONIC is a huge HUUGGGEEEEE NO NO!

 

If only Ted Kennedy was running he'd have this country shipshape in no time





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Ted Kennedy is crooked bastard, what the hell you smokin?

 

if mccain gets in were all headed for an american aushwitz. if its hillary were all dead in a couple of decades anyway from the corporate mafia destroying the web of life.

with obama, its all a roll of the dice. but at least its a roll of the dice. and that, brothers and sisters, is the last best hope that we have.

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yes they've all been bought and payed for by the corporatocracy. we all know we wouldn't be seeing any of them at this point if they hadn't been.

as for ted kennidy or anyone else, i don't know about the crooked bastard part, certainly no more so then they all are. some though, are more on our side then others, and some, like obama, stand a better chance, of like carter, not staying bought, and maybe, while their alive and in office doing a lot of good, or reversing a lot of the harm that had previously been done, like jfk did quite a lot of.

anyone who thinks any of them walk on water is living in lala land. but letting the corporatocracy that has usurped the political proccess continue to get away with murder, isn't going to sustain human life into fallowing centuries.

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I'm gonna most likely roll my dice with obama as well. Lets cross our fingers...

 

The way I look at it, Obama is the only one that makes any sense to vote for. Ron Paul is the best candidate, but he won't win. Everyone can see that Hillary is a continuation of the Bush-Clinton regime and that she is a cold bitch, so I cannot see her getting any votes besides other middle aged woman. Mccain is deemed too old by many and will not get the votes of younger folk. Obama will get votes from minoritys and from many other places. It makes me kind of wonder if there is a reason that the choices are so limited, what is Obama really going to do?

 

im just going to light my ballot on fire in protest, and since they are electronic, i'll light my hand on fire

 

The whole voting system is corrupt the consitution states were arent to have a party system. and today there are law again anything other than rep. and dem. we break our own law in order to keep the selected few that make the laws running for office. the people really have n say in our government now. Ron Paul is the only candidate i could be happy voting for, Clinton will usher in the end of the world and McCain will proboly endeding up starting a new war and the draft. Obama can go either way but most likely wont do shit.

 

obama is a member of the CFR, he supports S.1959, he is a distant cousin to both bush and cheney,is a 32nd free mason,voted to reauthorize the patriot act,supports global taxation,supports women being required to register for the draft,wants to increase the size of the military by 100,000,brezinski is his mentor..

roll the dice with obama? have you people lost your minds?

roll the dice with obama and your going to wind up with craps.

 

I simply must reply to this.

-Sen. Obama is not a Freemason. The belief that he is comes from some photographs of him supposedly Masonic gestures, but there is nothing other than this to suggest he is a member of the Freemasons. Using paparazzi pictures, I could likely make any celebrity or politician look like a Freemason. Furthermore, we have had past presidents who were members of Freemasonry. And our current president was a member of skulls. I'm assuming you're aversion to the Freemasons has to do with a conspiracy theory.
-I'm also assuming that you're aversion to the CFR has to do with a conspiracy theory, possibly the same one. I don't imagine that Barack Obama wants a One-World Government, and I'm glad that someone with policies like his sits of the CFR, so that the people who are seeking world domination can be countered. It shows that he does have foreign policy experience, and I think it might be better to eliminate corporate interest in the council.
-I don't really have too many problems with Brzezinski, though I'm not that fond of him. It seems to me that Obama consults Brzezinski on foreign policy, because Brzezinski has insight into the problems in Iran and Afghanistan- he helped create them, under Carter.
-The Global Poverty Act (S. 2433) is not a "Global Taxation Act." It is an act allocating part of the United States' Establishment's absurd amount of money to helping end Global Poverty. Thank God for it. There should be some tax reform so that the cost falls to the rich, but I don't see tax reform being a hard thing for the people of the country to fight for. On the same note, Obama doesn't want to increase taxes- except on the higher tax brackets. Those of us who can barely afford food shouldn't have to pay as much in taxes as those who make millions a year.

Now, he's no Messiah. I have major problems with S. 1959, primarily due to its ambiguity. The military should not be increased. The draft should be eliminated- but, if we have it, women should have to register as well. I also have major problems with the Patriot Act.

However, for Obama to not support the Patriot Act and the Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act would be political suicide. We must remember that this is all a big game, and that we all want more change than can occur within the system. This doesn't mean we should just not vote and let happen what will, because some things- like an unjust war and an economic depression- are too important to ignore.

Barack Obama is the best chance the country has. Voting is a contest, and I think it is best to vote for a candidate who could actually win the election. This country cannot survive 8, or even 4, more years of Bush policies. No, even having Barack Obama as president cannot bring about the amount of change we need, but it'll get us a hell of a lot further along than having John McCain.

Oh, and you should probably spend less time on the right-wing blogosphere, it may cause diziness, nausea, and insomnia.

 

well its obvious you have been brainwashed into rationalizing him into someone hes not.
its really irrelevant as they are all working towards the same goal and the plan has already been put in place. hes just as much a puppet as bush,Mcain or the clintons.

keep them blinders on sheeple..

 

Well I can say we know very little facts about the people we are voting for, due to the massive amount of hype and mudslinging now associated with our election. Hippiehillbilly's criticisms of Obama, true or not can be applied to any candidate who we are voting for. Who are you planning on voting for hippiehillbilly? Like I said before I think Obama is the best option we have, but he is still a piece of dirt compared to you and me.

 

unfortunately my only option this year is reduced to a write in a candidate(yes with a absentee ballot you can still write a candidate in) since bob barr seems to be running for the libertarian party..
more than likely i will write in ron paul..

i refuse to vote for puppets of the hierarchy of this world..

 

so you'd rather have a sure thing fuck up of what we've already got getting worse?

you think an american aushwitz would be a nice vacation for all of us maybe?

saying the're all bought and paid for by the corporate mafia is yesterday's news. obama's is just the best chance of the litter, of not staying bought.

we can lie to ourselves and talk about might have beens, but unless an overwhelming majority settled on one of them and actually somehow put that one in, it's just blowing smoke to do so.

hell i've know people on the street who would make a better president then any of them. but so what. we all know that aint the way it works.

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maybe the'll all end up doing the same things each other of them would have, and too damd close to the same things they've all been doing for the past ten years, or thirty, or sixty, depending on your perspective.

and maybe 2012 will be the year people finally get tired enough of it, instead of bitching and bullshitting and pretending to be.

but as long as people in one country think the country they live in has some kind of devine right to bully the rest of the world into screwing itself, OF COURSE no one person elected to one government office, whatever authority real or imagined that one person might possess, is going to chainge what a majority of people con themselves and each other into imagining they want.

so of course it STILL RESTS WITH US, whoever gets elected, what the examples each of us set, seperately, add up togather to creating a market for.

but i also think that one person CAN make SOME difference by how and in what way, he inspires congress and the reast of us.

and maybe a congress that didn't act like the rand corporation and the heiratage foundation weren't holding a gun to their heads.

does anyone honestly believe that bush's power is such that he could go against the corporate mafia the way he's been acting as their puppet and their proxy?

mcain won't and hillary will try to look reconcilliatory and maybe throw the rest of us a few crumbs. obama probably won't be able to consistently, but i think he'll get as good a laugh as the rest of us, out of doing so every chance he DOES get.

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(and you don't have to deny that there are other ways of screwing things up besides capitolism, to NOT deny that it IS one of them! and just as unneccessary and self serving as any of the others as well. AT LEAST just as.)

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you know everyone keeps saying its up to us, yadda yadda, so why are you even considering voting for "the lesser of the evils"??

personally i agree 100% that if we want change we must vote for change..

obama IS NOT CHANGE!hell even the obama mouth piece hippie tim admitted he votes to better himself not for the will of the people

hell he admitted everything i said was true.he however for some reason has no problem with it all.
who cares if he gives nearly a trillion dollars more to the united nations on top of what we already give them,, our kids kids can live in slavery to pay that debt.. yeah right,,no tax on the american people there.

hell who needs a war,,just borrow trillions and give it away,,bankruptcy is bankruptcy right?

american auschwitz?? yeah as obama sits on the homeland security committee, and is a supporter of the homegrown terrorism bill,S.1959.

perhaps you should research this bill,its also referred to as "the thought crime bill".
do you not understand if this bill passes you or i could be picked up as a terrorist simply for complaining about our government?

and obama is a spporter of this bill.

you vote for obama,you will be partly to blame for the coming american auschwitz,not i..

WAKE UP PEOPLE..
he is and will be working for the same agenda as the clinton's and bush's have been working towards.. the bankrupting of america,the abolishment of our constitution and a world government..

im sorry i will vote my conscience i will vote for real change,not the perceived lesser of evils..

 

i say hillary. i voted for her in the primaries, but i think every person in west virginia did if you all haven't heard.

 

I am not an Obama mouthpiece, I am informed and rational, and I am weighing all options in regards to voting:

1. Not vote -- If I choose to not vote, I do not take part in the political process and have no official voice. This means, to the Government, that I do not care about how much money they take from me, how they operate, what laws they pass, and what wars they fight. But I do care, particularly about some major current issues, including the War in Iraq and our failing economy. I want things to change. It's fine to consider "the big picture," but unless you're planning to overthrow the government in the next 8 years, I want to have a say in who's running it.

2. John McCain -- Not much to say here, except that I have major ideological differences with McCain and so wouldn't vote for him.

3. Barack Obama -- Pledges to end the war in Iraq, prevent war with Iran, provide tax relief to the middle & poor classes, keep first time, non-violent drug offenders out of prison, and reduce carbon emissions. These are issues I care about. Nonetheless, Barack Obama also supports the Homegrown Terrorism Bill, which I do not support, and I understand that he is much of the same, and if we want real change to actually occur, revolution is necessary (and inevitable); but it isn't going to happen anytime soon.

4. Write-In or Independent -- The fact is, either Sen. Obama or Sen. McCain will win the general election; we are not at a stage in America where our president will be neither Democrat or Republican. I wish that we were, the two-party system is bizarre and doesn't exist through the rest of the world. That being said, I don't want Sen. McCain to be president. I want the war to end; I want less money taken from me and more taken from billionaires, etc. etc.

I choose to vote for Barack Obama because I am left with only two viable candidates, and I want him to win. It doesn't mean that I support what the government does, it means that I care about what they do. You can write-in a candidate if you'd like, but in the end, there are only two people who could win.

And by the logic of "Vote for Obama, you will be partly responsible for the American Auschtwitz," I can easily reply "Don't vote for Obama and let McCain win, and you will be partly responsible for every innocent person who dies in Iraq for no real reason."

 

Thank you. Finally nice to see somebody else doing their homework

 

OF COURSE NO ONE we elect is going to GIVE US chainge on a silver platter, OR EVEN CAN. but is that a reason to choose what has already been observably screwing everything up?

get real. how is that a reason for voting for bussiness as usual hillary, or more of the same neo-fanatacism mccain?

saying all of them are fucked is saying nothing. what are you actually suggesting?, why?, and what do you expect out of it?

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