heya...vegan q's

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by Cate8, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    So I have been a vegetarian for quite sometime now, and I have decided to take it one step nicer and become vegan. But as I as chilling out right now hungry for a bagel I had to ask the question....what do you replace with butter??? Lol! Thanks guys
     
  2. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

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    You can get dairy free margarine (made from soya/sunflower oil/olive oil instead of dairy) in most supermarkets far as I can tell. Though you may need to do a little research into what brands are decent and avalable in your area.

    Good luck :)
     
  3. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Thank you! :D
     
  4. shaina

    shaina No War Know Peace

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    earth balance is a really good margarine. you can find it at all health food stores and even at alot of supermarkets
     
  5. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    try eating more whole foods but in moderation yes earth balance is certainly a great substitute
     
  6. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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  7. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    mmmm...wow ive never eaten such a freakin' good food...holy cow!!!....i made the carrot butter and it was awesome
     
  8. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    I almost always eat peanut butter on my bagel. Lots of protein and good calories :)
     
  9. veroness

    veroness There's only one :)

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    or you can make a strawberry paste...thats always good!
     
  10. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    peanut butter and almond butter r my faves for bagels...of course i am very picky about my bagels as well
     
  11. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Those are all SUCH good ideas!! :D What about honey? I wondered why honey is a problem?
     
  12. WalkerInTheWoods

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    Honey is a problem because it is from an animal ... or close enough. Either way it goes against the vegan ideology.
     
  13. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Honey is produced through worker bees. Meaning, they are working for us to consume their product....kind of sad if you think about it :(
     
  14. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    they are also working for the queen, that's how the apian society is set up: all serve the queen.
     
  15. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    But they do it naturally anyway, yes?
     
  16. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Cate8 Senior Member

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    I think that sounded insensitive. I dont mean to be. I am simply unsure about how the beekeeping process is done and therefore didint know how we were abusing them.
     
  18. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Veganism is a way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence for life. It applies to the practice of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals

    Here is another good link:
    http://www.vegsource.com/jo/qa/qahoney.htm
     
  19. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    short and sweet it boils to this:
    the philosophical stance of do humans have the inherent right to use animals and insects for our gain
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    the mechanical fact that the critters get squished in most commercial operations.
    so someone who is not fully in the we cannot use any creature camp could get honey from beekeepers who work slowly and avoid unneccessary killing of insects (noting that several die in winter anyway).

    if one was philosophically inclined to think that we should not use creatures at all would avoid honey and beeswax. And silk, btw.
     
  20. hummblebee

    hummblebee hipstertist.

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    I've been thinking about the honey thing for a while... since I'm well down the road toward veganism now. (Well, I guess it's been a couple weeks since I've consumed any animal products, but I hat to label myself, especially so soon:))

    I don't normally use honey very much, and it hasn't come up since my recent dietary changes. But I'm wondering whether locally, kindly, produced honey might be a better option for me than organic vegan sugar as a sweetener - simply because I'm very very broke and I can't really afford the sugar.

    If I do decide to get honey, it will be from a guy I know who lives way out in the country. There's a hive on his property (was there when he bought the place years ago) and he carefully harvests the honey without rushing it along... Treats the bees as though they are part of his family. :) I'm unsure at this point, and it really hasn't come up yet since I haven't been sweetening anything lately anyway. :)
     
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