Heroin users, question.

Well, since this drug is looked at as one of the worst that there can be, i wanna ask how did you actually just ahead and take the step into trying it? Just said fuck it to all the warnings that people say its so bad, and the fear you may have had of it to.


Did you just get into through experimenting with other opioids and then finally saying why not, pure curiousity, or just all the hype about how good the high is? or any other reasons.

and, do you regret it, if you could take back doing that first time with heroin, would you? or is the high worth addiction?

also, are there any users of this drug that have actually used it and stopped forever, or used it liked it and actually can enjoy it occasionally?


also, this is out of pure curiousity i have no interest in doing this drug, i just wanna see the users point of view on it, not just the condemnation.

 

in reality it has no negative effect on any organ, and its not "bad", its just so good that it dominates peoples' lives and they lose their sense

 

I've never done it, nor do I know anyone who has done it.

...What I've read, though, is that people are usually introduced to the stuff by someone else (they didn't find it... it found them). Also, I've read that once it enters your bloodstream, you're hooked. Then after that you need increasingly higher doses for a high, or steady amount for a 'fix'... and the habit becomes more and more expensive. Detoxing cold makes you so sick you just want to die (or think you're going to).

I don't know all this for sure, it's what I've read (which was archaic).

 

last i checked death wasnt very healthy for your organs


skin is an organ as well havent ya ever seen how fucked up it makes ppl look?
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are you really that dumb that youd say theres nothing bad about it?

 

The substance itself has no negative effects on any major organs, stop making an ass out of yourself once again. The "how fucked up people look" is a byproduct of addiction and the life it can lead to, not the drug itself. I said there were no negative physical sideffects of the drug itself, execpt for constipation I guess, and loss of appetite, but the lifestyle some street junkies live is the one people have stuck in their heads.

if you have 100% pure heroin, and you can know exact dosages, it would be fairly difficult to O.D

 

ive tried it, snorted it, smoked it, injected it. tried pure afghani white heroin... its been a year i havent touched it, i never got addicted, n never had an overdose, im healthy as fuck, im still a marijuana smoker though n i cant stop. the evils of heroin r so overated, its not the substance that is bad its the addictive personality of users which gives it a bad name. n BTW i hate people like soaringeagle whot think that ur hooked to heroin from trying it once. im telling u the addiction potential and the harm of marijuana is so underated which makes everyone try it n keep on smokin it n convincing themselves its ok, like soaringeagle. I CANT STOP MARIJUANA, but i tried heroin n i cant say i stopped it cuz i never even became a regular user to begin with. heroin is as safe as marijuana to the organs and cells. Crack, meth, ECSTASY (soaringeagle loves it), amphetamines, barbiturates, diazepams, nictotine, alcohol n most medicines u get prescribed or buy otc r much worse. a guy who takes ecstasy every weekend fucks himself more than a guy who does heroin everyweekend (if he doesnt get addicted). If heroin was legal nobody would ever die of an overdose. plus its not better than sex, nothing is.

 

yes, there are a ton. I would guess there are more people who have tried it and aren't addicted than there are junkies.

and 'the high worth the addiction': you do not get addicted from using it once. that is complete and utter bullshittery.

tolerance doesn't automatically go up, that comes from dosing often. people can dose opiates a couple times a week without building any tolerance.

heroin itself doesn't really cause physical harm, other that constipation and the possibility of OD. The problems come from bruising/AIDS risk if people choose to inject their H, and the lifestyle heroin users are turned to live in our prohibitionist society.

 

Last time I checked I didn't have withdrawl symptoms from not smoking cannabis, and I'm an everyday smoker myself.

 

ecstasy is one of the safest drugs you can take, physically.

 

if ya cant quit pot dont tpouch heroin come on man pots soooooooooooooooo easy to quit...just dont smoke


hey ya say it dont affect any organs? what abouit the organ in your fuckin pants and your inability to get it up


it affects lungs when smioked very negatively
it can build up in veins and airways causing heart failure clotting lung problems and yes brain issues as well
lets not forget stupidity
it causes stupidity which leads to the junky lifestyle but also the stupidsity to think you can control it and not be harmed
i mean seriusly how dumb do u gotta be to claim pots worse then heroin??????????

 

bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pot is

extacy isnt safe by any means
it has long term devastating effects if overused but even mild use can cause alotta mental issues like depression

also when mixed with other psychodelics it can cause some of the worse slips into psychosis u ever saw..
extacy is oiny semi safe if you severely limmit its use..a handful of times spread out over a lifetime

im sure your already beyond that and are being negatively affected without realizing it
memory and emotional health are the biggest risk factors

 

First of all, Marijuana shouldnt even be considered a drug.

Secondly, heroin really isnt the problem, its addiction. There is really nothing wrong with trying it once, or doing it occasionally (like once a month or so), but its when addiction takes a grip that things get messy real fast. That's the hard part, limiting yourself to doing heroin once in a while, but if you could do it, it would be as safe as weed.

 

actually i have never tried E and dont really have any desire to. i'm not really interested in drugs that dont expand the mind. ive only done research, which has said that its PHYSICALLY safe, meaning it is difficult to overdose and it doesnt corrode organs or put holes in your brain or some bullshit like that.

 

first of all pot affects the lungs "very negatively" also so does nicotine, heroin isnt any worse, its not like smokin ice or crack, n the reason behind hurting ur lungs is cuz of the adulterants added to it by bitch ass dealers, if it was legal the lung harm would be much less, it builds up in veins when ur an addict not when ur an occasional user or tried it once, theres no brain damage thats bullshit u came up with, u cant get it up when ur on it cuz its an opiate n that doesnt happen to all people, when u smoke marijuana excessively this might lead to erectile problems. ive never said that heroin is safer dumbass, i just said that i tried heroin n never got addicted, n i tried pot n i got addicted mentally, so addiction isnt about substance it is about the user. n to people who say ecstasy is harmless thats like goverement anti drug propaganda however its pro drug propaganda by users. ecstasy effects on the brain are so strong u cant deny that, it fucks up memory big time, but like everything when used excessively, n it depends what u consider excessive.

 

when it comes down to it. your all idiots with dumb opinions that you think are truth. the truth really is. ANYTHING has the possibility for addiction...even chocolate. so with THAT said, i say this...


it really depends on your personality, and what your interested in. if your surounded by people who do drugs, your most likely going to do them to. same with video games and that sort. you hang out with people who play video games, well, your probably going to play afew times yourself as well.


now im not saying heroin isnt a bad drug. it distroys lives and ive seen it happen first hand. but ive tried it. i dont do it every day, i may do it again one day. but i cant say im at all addicted to it. but pot on the other hand. im completely addicted to, i love weed, havent lived without it in years. its become my crutch, what i rely on to get threw a borning day. but thats not the answer either. all im really saying is theres good and bad in everything just depends on how you look at it you dumb opinionated fucks.

 

When I first tried Heroin, I knew that it was a hard opiate on the level with hydromorphone, morphine and all so I basically decided that I've done worse things, such as cocaine and that it couldn't be that more hellish than other opiates. Plus, it's the cheapest opiate as well, so that ties in with that.

I found out that it's a completely different kind of opiate, first off, a street one. Then, every other opiate was just completely on a lower level in terms of satisfaction, beauty, bliss, nodding and so one.

It's a lot better, and worse in terms of addiction potential.

I don't regret trying it as I am in control of myself at this point and have done it a good amount of times.

If you do decide to try, hopefully it won't be for you, and you'll stop. If you don't stop, do it at the most at a weekly basis. Not daily, that'll end badly.

 

doin it weekly could turn to daily easily, again it all depends on the person, im not recommendin heroin for anyone but its not the road to hell like yall think. i do it when i feel like it n i havent felt like it in a year, eventhough i love it n its totall bliss, but most of the time i have studies to take care of, friends to go out with, knowledge to read, parents to love so theres no need for it.

 

that is true, but some people just cant abstain too long ya know?

 

This is the biggest load of bullshit ive heard in my life. There is no one set way to make E. Hundreds of different types of chemicals could be in it. Cookers will put in poisons and other things so you think your getting something crazy (my neighbor cooks). There is really no way to tell what kind of concentration is in it either. There are hundreds of variables in mdma. ecstacy is a VERy dangerous drug that can easily cause you to OD.

 

To answer a few of your questions the best I can the way my ass got into Herion was actually buy doing coke and crack real heavy in my late teens. I think I have said this before on hear a few times. I hated the come down AKA Crash form coke and crack so dam bad and sence I was doing coke and crack all the time I was feeling that crash all the time and to help the crash I use to eather get real real drunk until I would pass out,smoke a shit load of weed but I hated that feeling of weed and mixed with a coke crash and it did not do much at all for the shit feeling or take pills like lower end opiates like vicoden,codeine,etc or benzos to ease the the pain of my come down. But this still sucked and took to much time to work and I still felt like shit no matter what and felt like shit the next day.Anyways I was around 19 I think it was and these girls who me and my boys were hanging around with from the next town over were sniffing dope.when we would drive into New York city for coke or other drugs like hits of LSD,X,K,Angel Dust etc we would stop buy this Herion spot for the girls in the Bronx for them, So I saw these girls doing dope a few times and I was interested in it but still did not try it and never thought I would eather but the seed was in my head and I was curious as all hell I wondered what sniffing it was like so much and wanted to know the feeling of it and shit I pretty much had tried every drug out there at that point exsept dope .So one night after doing alot of coke the girl lauren asked me if I wanted a bump of Herion to help the come down she said it would almost take it away in seconds. So feeling like total shit I said what the fuck and decided to give it a shot, I sniffed two little bumps andand that was it rom that point on, The jnext time into the City to get coke when they went to there Herion spot I had them pick me up my own bag, I keep doing it like that only after we would do coke or after tripping out, But after I felt the full high from the Herion I started loving the feeling it gave me. It pretty much became my drug of choice from that point on. Aftrer that I just started using it a few times a week, and one bad turned into 2 bags and so on and so forth until I finally got a little habit after about year of suing it, WEll a little habit turned into a big fucking habbit real quick, So instead of having to sniff 4 to 7 bags a day to get high I could shot 2 and feel the same feeling. So I decided to try shooting it, Very stupid mistake that needle was unlike any fucking thing I ever helt the rush from the Herion hiitng my blood stream was just amazing better then any feeling I had ever felt and me being a drug addict weel I was off to the races. I was about 21 when I started shooting up Dope and that lasted for years until I was 28 and got on methadone. And for your other question do I regret doing Herion the answer is Hell Yes I do the shit almost killed my6 ass 3 times and it turned me into a fucking junky Thief peace of shit when I strung out on it. And even though I don't use like I ounce did I still do use maybe ounce a month or every other month or so, I don't think I will ever be able to fully walk away from Herion or that needle but atleast I have my life together and am not strung out any more like I was in my early and mid 20's. I just wish people would think long and hard before trying Dope or any hard drugs if they already have an addictive personality. Ounce your ass is hooked on Herion its hard as hell to walk away from it and get your life back ! And forget about it ounce you sart using a spike you won't ever want to do drugs again like Dope or Coke with out shooting them up and dope and coke are bad enuff when sniffed or smoked but shooting them just takes your addiction 1000 times worse !!!!! The bottom line is If you want a short summary in a song of what dope does to a user go listen to the Ramones Song Chinese Rock ! A great song about Dope and the life style you lead when you are hooked on it !!! Sublimes Poolshark is another Good song about Herion also !!!!