Help, think outside the box

I feel like I don't really enjoy psychs anymore. I don't like drinking either. People my age only like to get fucked up though... What do I do?! All my friends are drug users and thats all we talk about... Esp. since I am the knowledgeable one that they look up to. I don't want to start a new hobby and be the noob.

But seriously, what do you do after you get bored with drugs? Was a wonderful pass-time; learning and using, finding and selling. But what happens after you get bored of that? Drugs are so fun and extreme I think normal things are boring now. Who the fuck wants to go bowling after you have died and been shot through a particle cannon into and alien ship and had to program their computers by the single electrons?!

I feel like I have learned everything there is to learn from psychs. One thing I have noticed about this forum and the people in it (love you guys ) is that you are bias towards drugs. pro-drug. So used to defending them and trying to spread the right knowledge that you get wrapped up in the process and become hard headed (in a way). Thats why I named this think outside the box. For normal people it is inside the box to figure out something like this, but not for us.

I guess the answer is just a simple "change your lifestyle and friends". I just don't think its that easy. Any tips on it then?

 

maybe bowling's not your thing
try hobbies and find out what you like
my advice is to just go out and do things and talk to people...live your life
also i don't understand your "us and them" mentality so i don't know what to say about that

 

thinkin outside the box is just over-rated,

 

I just figure that there are so many things in life, and so many drugs, and when you do a new thing, or go to a new place or both, and do it on some kind of drug, then it always will be a new experience, so thats why I never get "bored" of drugs because there are so many things to do on them!

 

Try to become one with everything, which means being selfless in regards to other people; i.e. what you do to them, believe you are literally doing to yourself.

 

cod

sounds like youre growing up. out of drugs. you dont wanna be a noob at something new but thats just pride. you will always be a noob at every new thing you try.

a walk in the park rivals your deepest trip, all it takes is attitude. vision. put down the pipe and step outside the wigwam. your training is over. unleash yourself onto the world.

 

I like you too. Right on. Just go and be you without drugs, it can be a hard skill to re-learn, but I have often felt nostalgic about the days when I could just go have fun without relying on drugs.

I am pro-drug, but you have to be able to live without them to be a complete person.

Answering your question: What do you do when you get bored with drugs?

I get bored with sobriety.

 

Yeah, I know its pride. I just hope that I am that good at whatever it is that will be next. I don't think I am going to totally stop using drugs, but mostly.

I feel what you say, I just don't know where to walk to :/ or who to walk with.

The box we have created here is out of the normal box completely. I just need to get out of this box and into another

Edit; I got bored with sobriety too back then sam. Now drugs are boring. Now what?! lol. Guess just find a new hobby...

 

Change up the routine.

Do you play any musical instruments?

 

discovering this is your new journey

 

Find yourself a woman..things can be much nicer when a girl you care about is around. Youll have plenty to do, and it adds a new element to psyches as well

 

Try new things. I am learning to draw for example. Or do a sport you've never been good at before. For me that is running, but I am going to challenge myself to improve little by little. I know you said you don't want to be the new guy at anything, but I think it is really good for the mind and soul to be challenged and have to work to where others are. Besides, there is no point in only being an expert at one thing. Work on learning as many skills as you can.

 

So do you have any other hobbies? You were in the military, do you like guns? They are my past time. When I feel down, I go shoot some shit up. When I feel artsy fartsy I make hemp jewlery and knit and paint and such. (I know that's a girly hobby) When I feel energetic I go for a bike ride or a hike.

Maybe you need a new interesting friend. or mentioned above a GF. I know I read a post somewhat recently about you tripping with your GF or something, are you still together?

Maybe you should get a pet, if you like the outdoors get a dog or something to enjoy and have fun outside with you and give you something to do and take care of. But if you are like me I get unusual reptiles so I can learn new things and have experiences like not many ppl get with thier animals.

I am the type of person who craves to learn new things, get new hobbies and expand the ones I already have. I have a huge gun collection, reptile collection, car collection lol, glass smoking devices collection... I guess I like to collect things.

But you know there are things that you have always wanted to learn or get into. Like me.. I always wanted a life sized remote control car... So I built a 63' Impala with hydraulics. I didn't know shiznat about teh juice but after a bunch of seraching and reading I bought all the shit and my hubby and I built it all together. Now we get to ride around town hitting switches and getting everyones attention. 3 wheelin wherever possibly safe and getting to just stand outside of the car and play with it. It's like the most ultimate RC car ever, but it doesn't move forward. Just up and down, side to side.

 

I KNOW I KNOW! GET A GOLDFISH. They are the coolest pets. Except I think I need to change my fishies filter because my room smells a little funky. :/

 

I have a 75 gallon tank with a community of cichlids and pleco's. All my cichlids breed and I get new babies all the time. It's awesome I just got some Jack Dempsies, I hope I got a male and female.

 

I learned what I needed to from drugs and now it is time for me to ... ?? That's a good question.

Was reading some Ram Dass last night about tripping and spiritual progression / meditation... Bolding essential sentences for easy skimming, lol.

Excerpt from Journey of Awakening, a meditator's handbook:
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For many of us who have come into meditation through psychedelics, the model we have had for changing consciousness has been of "getting high." We pushed away our normal waking state in order to embrace a state of euphoria, harmony, bliss, peace, or ecstasy. Many of us spent long periods of time getting high and coming down. It was like the Biblical story of the wedding guest who came to the wedding but was not wearing the proper wedding garments, so he got thrown out. My guru, in speaking about psychedelics, said, "These medicines will allow you to come and visit Christ, but you can only stay two hours. Then you have to leave again. This is not the true samadhi. It's better to become Christ than to visit him- but even the visit of a saint for a moment is useful." Then he added "But love is the most powerful medicine." For love slowly transforms you into what the psychedelics only let you glimpse.

In view of his words, when I reflected on my trips with LSD and other psychedelics, I saw that after a glimpse of the possibility of transcendence I continued tripping only to reassure myself that the possibility was still there. Seeing the possibility is indeed different from being the possibility. Sooner or later you must purify and alter your mind, heart, and body so that the things which bring you down from your experiences lose their power over you. Psychedelics could chemically override the thought patterns in your brain so that you are open to the moment, but once the chemical loses its power the old habit patterns take over again. With them comes a subtle despair that without chemicals you are a prisoner of your thoughts.

I recall vividly a powerful experience in 1962 in the meditation room of our house in Newton. For several hours I say quiescent in a state of ecstatic transcendence merging into the universe. As the chemical began to wear off I saw a blood-red wave rolling down the room toward me. In it were thousands of images of me- all my social and psychological definitions of self. me on a tricycle, givin a lecture, making love, and so forth. It was as if this wave was about to overrun me and carry me back into myself. I recall putting up my hands, trying to push away the oncoming wave and desperately searching my mind for some mantra or technique that would hold off this incredible force bearing down upon me. But I had no such charm or spell. The wave poured back over me and I came back into my old familiar self. In recent years I have learned how, when the thoughts arise that were contained within that wave, to use a meditation stance to witness them. This gently loosens their hold and brings me back into the moment. Then I see there's nothing special about the high, nothing dreadful about the thoughts in the wave. Just stuff.

The trap of high experiences, however they occur, is that you become attached to their memory and so you try to recreate them. These memories compel you to try and reproduce the high. Ultimately they trap you, because they interfere with your experience of the present moment. In meditation you must be in the moment, letting go of comparisons and memories. If the high was too powerful in comparison to the rest of your life, it overrides the present and keeps you focused on the past. The paradox, of course, is that were you to let go of the past, you would find the present moment the same quality you once had. But because you're trying to repeat the past, you lose the moment.

How many times have you felt a moment of perfection- only to have it torn away the next moment by awareness that it will pass? How many times will you try to get high hoping that this time you won't come down- until you already know as you start to go up that you will come down? The down is part of the high. When in meditation you are tempted to by another taste of honey, your memory of the finiteness of those moments tempers your desire. More bliss, more rapture, more ecstasy- just part of the passing show. The moment in its fullness includes both high and low and yet is beyond both.

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Not saying go be a guru in India or anything like that, just wanted to point out some interesting reading as it might pertain to what you are experiencing internally.

As others have said, you have gotten what you needed from the drugs and now it is time to emerge from the wigwam...

Who knows in what direction to walk? Or with whom? Those are heavy questions. And light. It can be as simple as changing as much as you'd like at any point. Perhaps you are indeed tired of your surroundings, perhaps you are indeed realizing that after you experience transcendental bliss it is indeed difficult to reassemble back into the world. All the more reason to dig deeper into a spiritual path that might lead you to be able to experience the bliss that is folded within every moment, waiting for you to tap into it?

There are so many different ways to go in that regard, from naturalism to the organized groups to Buddhism to ... just all sorts of stuff.

Any of that, uh, float your boat? If not it's all good. I just got excited because I read this last night and was reading what you were saying, thought maybe you'd connect with what he was talking about.

(edited to add: Though really, find something that makes you smile. Not in a carnal way, but find something that brings our a joy inside of you. walk around, go different places, try new lifestyle changes that you've wanted to, sign up for a class on something you've wanted to learn about... ?? One of these things could be the spark that starts the next blaze inside of you.)

 

Nice post, Changing Tide. I wrote something today with a little of the same mind that I'm going to put in a new thread and hopefully also speak to PrOne420, CherokeeMist, and others.

Nameste

 

The most effective way is to move. A new job in a new area.

 

Looks like it's time for you to turn to the only thing that is greater than drugs.
Video games.

 

^^ Nice post TheChangingTide. Lots of useful information in it as far as the psychological behind highs and lows go. Needed to hear that again.

Don't wanna sound cheesey, but creative outlets, activities, relationships. Do you like high energy or low energy activities? Do you like doing nothing? Do you like creating? There's different things to do depending on how active you like to get.

You probably just don't like bowling man lol, but to be honest you can get into the heat of any moment if you try. Just say, ENTHUSIASM the way Spongebob says IMAGINATION.

It's not about being "for" or "against" drugs. It's about looking at the good and bad behind every drug with an equal eye and upholding the truthfulness behind those facts amongst your peers. I may "do" LSD but I'm the first to tell any of my friends that it can be a very life altering process. I may "smoke" marijuana but I wouldn't offer my brother a joint without fully explaining the concept of a habit and how they can interfere if responsibility isn't maintained.

What else can you do besides changing the style of your life and the friends it happens around?

But anyway, best of luck dude. I'd like to believe a great deal of maturity led you to that sort of conclusion with drugs.