Hating on Borgore.

Discussion in 'Electronic and Experimental Music' started by Shivaya, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    Soooooo I'm one of those fuck techno I hate techno dudes that just can't do electronic music... but then, someone introduced me to dubstep. I LOVE it. I just cant help it.

    I know NOTHING about this stuff. All I know is that the type of dubstep I like is the really heavy filthy bassy loud dirty stuff like borgore. But now I'm hearing that apparently that's not dubstep, its gorestep and that borgore is a joke in the dubstep community and blablabla.

    Would someone enlighten me?
    Oh, and maybe share some tunes that along those lines?:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfx5wbmRwfA&nofeather=True"]YouTube - Borgore - Act Like A Ho
     
  2. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    The over the top wobble lead is over done and played out. The sound was really big on the festival circuit for the past 4 years and now Its has been played out shortly past the peak of it's popularity. However the mainstream is just now getting ahold of it for the cash-out pushing the annoying sound even more ala Britney spear's Hold It against me.
    It's called Bro-step because its massively appealing to the "i don't like techno , but damn this is a sick bassline and a broken beat i can get down with this" demographic. The online dubstep community is a snobbish stuck up bunch of purist nerds listening to incredibly wierd undanceable but intelligent shit like Burial, Mount Kimbie or James Blake and other releases on hotflush, deep medi, hemlock, and Ancestor recordings. Half the stuff that they like is unfathomable to the common Bro therefore it gets the dubstep afficianado stamp of approval.
     
  3. jimmydean885

    jimmydean885 Member

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    listen to downlink, datsik, liquid stranger, and vaski. those guys are good artists. borgore is fun somtimes but thats about it.
     
  4. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    ^^^^ brostep.
     
  5. jimmydean885

    jimmydean885 Member

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    ive seen brostep thrown around, i tend to think of that as a term to describe dubstep when they dont like dubstep
     
  6. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    Not that I don't like dubstep or brostep. Just the artist you listed were definitely the epitome of brostep and that sound is overdone IMO. It may be new to some people but I really think its stale and time for something fresh. The dubstep I prefer to listen to is sub heavy and more deep and less mid range and no wobble. Don't get me wrong when I'm in the mood I can rage to a big stage of brostep but unfortunately the sound is 4 years old already

    Even the creator and pioneer of the sound, Rusko, says It's gone too far.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEuFTBG0Rbg"]YouTube - Rusko's thoughts on Brostep

    I hear lots of people who like and create, enjoy, dj dubstep, use the word brostep. Its not exclusive to haters of the genre. Hell Ill produce a brostep track right now in ableton just to show you what i mean.
     
  7. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    Meanwhile....

    Musical geniuses are at work making dubs like this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOwD67BIPMA"]YouTube - Thom Yorke/Burial/Four Tet - Mirror
     
  8. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    Wow. That is actually, a really, really good explanation Omacatl! I totally get it. Having been into metal for a long time, which is FILLED with clichés and cheesiness, I guess that I am now into the sort of metal that takes alot of time to appreciate, and I kinda frown upon the ''easy'', more ''accessible'' metal, because I find it boring and lame. Since I don't take dubstep seriously at all, I can just kinda smile and bang my head at how ridiculously heavy this ''bro-step'' is and just enjoy it for what it is once in a while. I can understand someone who's been studying the genre for years could be annoyed.

    I'll check em' out!

    Yyyeah.... that is definetly not for me... probably an acquired taste, like i mentionned earlier!

    CHeers!
     
  9. Moe420

    Moe420 Banned

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    I like borgore, but dubstep is still newish to me, I sadly couldn't watch that video that omacatl posted but I don't think of myself as a "brostepper". I love dubstep but just because you whip together some grimey bass lines and throw in a few glitchy wobbles does not an artist make. And I get that. But sometimes I just wanna listen to some dirty dubstep. What I'm really liking right now is Skrillex which is more housey and makes me smile. Also, what's up with dubstep artists remixing EVERYTHING!!!!! no one needs a fucking Justin Beiber dubstep. Just saying.
     
  10. jimmydean885

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    oh i know, im just still addicted hahaha. actually lately ive been listening to more downtemp like dave tipper and eskmo
     
  11. jacobfredjo

    jacobfredjo Senior Member

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    yeah, omacatl has got it. every week, there are dozens of new hevy dubstep releases, and its all shit honestly. that music is totally going to die out soon. lots of kiddies are being turned onto it because it is good music to dance to when your wasted. go figure, music sounds good when on drugs?

    downtempo/idm/organic is my personal favorite sub genre of electronic. Talking about artists like Deru, Welder (aka Eskmo - eskmo is his heavier material, welder is very much more organic and chill), Nalepa, Mr.Projectile, Slidecamp.... Bunch of good stuff coming out of Australia right now like Auma, Sun:Monx, and a few others.

    Look for a new releases from Welder and Slidecamp sometime in 2011, both should be FANTASTIC albums.

    btw, Slidecamp is the duo of Boreta (Glitch Mob) and Comma (Bay area, original glitchy breakbeat) doing some downtempo idm. Great stuff IMO.
     
  12. Kamran

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    I agree. I've only heard brostep here on hipforums though. I just call it dubstep.

    Anywho, Borgore sucks. I only like dubstep if it's well-produced or has really nice rhythm.
     
  13. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    :2thumbsup:
    Denver fam knows whats up. Seriously considering moving up north for the cooler legal climate and the bangin scene.

    Brendan Angelides (aka eskmo/welder) is a genius and an artist in every true sense of the world. When I listen to his music i close my eyes and try and feel what the artist is conveying. I get so many emotions and beautiful visions from his music. Truly refreshing.
     
  14. jacobfredjo

    jacobfredjo Senior Member

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    ^ Let me know if your ever in town, maybe you can show me how to make my way around Ableton :) I envy those who have the ability to create music. Would love to chill, Denver has a ton of things to offer. Just last weekend, I went boarding in 6 inches of powder, then drove an hour back home to high 60's. Summers are great here in CO too.

    Honestly, the electronic scene out here is all brostep right now. Which is why I cannot wait until this thing dies. I did see Timonkey last night for the first time which was really cool, I love his stuff. Electronic music was picking up some serious ground the last 4 or 5 years, and then dubstep happened :(

    But we do get some fantastic funky/jazzy/world beat jam kinda stuff, which I still very much enjoy.
     
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