(Be warned: this is a very long post. Skip point 3 is necessary, I rambled a bit.). I'm acquiring 4 tabs of unknown quality LSD for use next Saturday (Halloween) from a friend. This friend is an experienced user (10-15 trips, according to her ex-boyfriend) so I'm fairly confident the quality will be decent. It will be my second use of LSD following a late-June encounter (trip report will show up eventually when I feel like finishing writing it - I wrote half a few weeks ago while drunk and bored). That time I took two tabs and had a very nice experience of moderate intensity but devoid of a very high peak, more of a very nice plateau. I took the LSD completely on a whim, so I was unprepared - not this time! Prior to that experience, I have used mushrooms once (5g) and it was very overwhelming, but my good mindset prevented the ego dissolution from being too uncomfortable. It was also on a whim, and prior to my knowledge of the entheogenic properties of certain hallucinogens. Anyway, I have a few questions for more experience trippers! 1. How much should I dose? Should I take the chance at an underwhelming experience with 2 tabs in order to trip twice? Or should I go full gusto with 4 with only moderate knowledge of the intensity? Maybe use 3 and give the other to a friend, bringing his total to 3 (if he is amenable)? 2. Anyone with experience with any of the following, with a group of people (likely 5-7): a. Building forts? b. Horror movies? c. Creative writing or art? d. Themed music? 3. I may want to attempt to test some hypotheses generated from my first trip and research. Mainly I want to evaluate if there any evidence for an increased accuracy or belief of accuracy in reading body language under the influence, leading to reports of conversations without talking between those on LSD. I have proper controls and my friends do not have any indication of my hypotheses, so the experiment should be at least somewhat informative (I realize the biased sample and low sample size prevent any generalized applicability). I just need to pinpoint my methods of converting similarity of reported communication between partners into a numerical value on which I can perform statistical analysis. My friends are fairly scientifically oriented like me, but this could be totally boring if they're not interested in the implications. This really isn't a question, more like a musing. Perhaps this idea can wait until I have more experience with the drug, and in a less party-style setting. 4. Any other group activities that may be fun? 5. I'm very scientifically oriented as a person (I aspire to be a research virologist as a career). Any particular recommendations for activities or topics of conversation? Last time, for example, we ended up discussing the nature of subjective experience of time, and possible subjective psychological correlates (on the comedown - it took a while to be able to hold the thoughts and advance the discussion). Fairly similar to thoughts expressed here: http://www.chronos.msu.ru/EREPORTS/gruber_subjective.pdf 6. Any particularly engaging topics related to the nature of self, life, social interactions, for stimulating conversations? 7. Finally, if at some point I don't want to think about the nature of the universe, any really cool eye candy/movies/TV shows etc. that are recommended? That's about all I can think of. As you can probably see, I take a scientific approach to everything. In my opinion, it's the best way to optimize just about anything! I hope those who read some or all of that respond with as much enthusiasm as I have for making my upcoming trip(s) both fun and profound! P.S. LSD is awesome, I swear it was designed for introspective people like me!
Ask the person you're getting it from. I've had tabs where 1 would kick your ass and tabs where it took 5 to have a real trip. YMMV. Awesome. Stay away from the TV. If you have the ability, it'd be great. Make your own music. But Halloween themed music should be fine. Your last sentence was right on. Do work or have fun. It's really hard to shift gears from one to the other. Naked fingerpainting. Time will come up as a topic. Just go with it. It'll lead to other things. Don't force it, let it happen. It's Halloween. You should easily be able to entertain yourself with a head full of acid. Actually, it was designed for people with headaches. Hoffmann would probably be very pissed knowing you rook it on Halloween. He was never a supporter of having his drug in people outside of a lab setting.
lol 15-20 trips is experienced. I dont even feel that im all that experienced with 130-200 trips. dont watch horror movies, if you even have to ask you arent ready for it. Nor should even waste your time watching movies on a trip (unless your having a bad trip or its the come down movies should not be watched). Building forts was a lot of fun for me, probably will be for you too art is fun sometimes but i believe it distracts you from the visuals so you wont see a bunch of crazy stuff imo
i remember hearing him talk about mystical experiences in the forest. that could have been without LSD. oh and on creating art, it helps your visualization alot. i do alot of line drawing, and for me when i'm drawing i see what i'm going to draw on the paper,i follow it. when you take acid you see all sorts of crazy shit on the paper, you just have to focus and make it stop moving. or be quick enough to follow it lol. same with making music, it opens up your inner voice, you just have to have the ability to follow it.
i kinda have the same questions... like on halloween my friend and i are going to trip but i dont know what we're going to do... like we're going to take it early, and we'll probably go to a party that night but that wont be for a while after we start tripping. we'll be on campus most likely the whole time, and ive already spent a trip exploring the entire campus, im not sure i want to do the same thing again.
Cool guys. Some good advice, especially from 36fuckin5. Thanks. I'm planning on going into it with a bunch of paper, some art supplies, a blanket, a pillow, my iPod, and my laptop. Oh, and some food and water. Instead of trying to make it totally optimal, I'm going to just try to be prepared for what I may want to do. And yes, conversations on the nature of time may come up, but we discussed that to death last time (and wrote a theory on subjective time on a piece of cardboard because we had no paper!). We'll think of something though.
shit, whats a good thing to do if you're gonna be tripping but your friend wont? i want to trip on halloween and the guy who was supposed to trip with me backed out, so it'll just be me and my other friend, but she doesnt want to trip. we were gonna hang out for a bit (she was going to come at like 6ish) before the party, which probably wont start till like 10 or something.... i want to take the acid early so im not up till like noon the next day. what could we do that would be entertaining for both of us if im the only one tripping?
Whatever your friend finds interesting. You'll be on acid. Everything should be pretty entertaining to you :hat:.
oh i know i'll be entertained. i'd just feel bad if my friend is just sitting there bored while i'm just looking at shit. i have enough for her to trip but she has no interest in acid. i'm just thinking of shit to do in general thats entertaining for a sober person and not too intense for someone whos tripping...
You can do anything while on acid, if your mind can handle it. (and depending on the dose :hat To those saying don't watch scary movies, i saw "The Happening" on my first dose of 2 hits. Needless to say, i thought i was going to die and this was actually happening outside my friends house; but it was fun somehow. You just have to take scary and make it fun or funny*. I always thought to myself, damn it would suck to die like that or haha they're dead... to keep the bad thoughts away.
I'm super excited, we moved up the trip to today so in 4 hours, I'll be dosing! It's a great thing too. I've had a really productive day in the lab and am in a great mood in general. Wish me luck guys! P.S. I'm taking two hits .
i'd rather do acid by myself than with a sober friend maybe i'd hang out with them for a couple hours, but not the whole time. and i wouldn't really wanna go to a college party on acid either. i mean you should be fine on a low dose. i just have much more fun when i have control over my environment. i just trip at my apt. alone and do whatever i want.