I know there are some people out there that think it is not, so I want to hear your assho-- I mean opinion.
I think it's what happened when someone took the heaviness of metal, with a more simplistic punk sensibility.
False nirvana killed fun in rock music in general. And metal was fun and it had its following in America but then again Americans are spoon feed to what music to like. FCK kurt wish he killed himself earlier.
false early Grunge had a noticeable Metal influence, but at the end of the day it's just influences and the odd Metal riff here or there does not constitute it as Metal especially when they share little to no other similarities in Music/ideals/lyrics etc.
Fuck you, he changed rock for the better. Those fucking hair bands had to GO. I know you wanna watch men in fucking whorish make-up prance around in leopard leotards, but fuck that shit.
The 3 biggest grunge bands that I can think of all sound like they were influenced by different genres. Nirvana=punk Alice in Chains=Metal Pearl Jam=Rock So no I don't really see it as a sub genre of metal.
No way in hell he did. Black Francis changed rock where Kurt Cobain is credited. The Pixies created the 'quiet/heavy' dynamic used so frequently in metal music these days, so you could say that influenced a lot of metal bands there after- even if the genres were different. Kurt Cobain admitted to songs like 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' were simply him trying to rip of The Pixies. I hate Grunge for the most part anyways, though Alice In Chains are superb.
Yes, there is no fun to be had in rock music anymore, just ask anyone at A QOTSA concert... No one is stopping you from listening to your WHAM and Loving Spoonfull tapes, whats your point? You must be a real tough guy.
I took your advice and asked pretty much anyone at a QOTSA concert they told me they were simply too cool to have any fun
QOTSA are boring, I seen and been too better concerts WAY better then them. oh did the Americans feelings get hurt? its only the truth...like this one marine I once said " while in the 90s America ate up grunge and left metal behind. The Japs still loved to rock and listen to heavy metal. Thats why I kept on buying imported CDs from Jap since they kept the music alive!" even till this day Metal lives on not as a trend or anything but for its music. Also Metal isnt just big Japan but almost everywhere Central America, South America, Europe and Asia. I want to see QOTSA throw a Open Air festival anywhere outside of North America. See how awesome they are...... Yeah just like you being a Marine fight over seas at third world countries...
wow not a single person agreed with me yet. I see a lot of valid points opposing my position, however I will stick with my view that grunge is metal on heroin. except pearl jam which is the beach boys on heroin.
this thread has lasted longer than the thread movement, anyways and has been more interesting, actually.