give up what you're doing

quit talking bullshit if you still work for the man. if you have a job and have a house and a "life," you're supporting the man. if you're out there paying taxes, you're supporting the man.

what i say:

drop everything and grab an instrument, take 4 hits of lsd and teach yourself that instrument. then; quit your job and start hitchiking. all you need is that instrument you taught yourself and you have food, shelter, and anything else you want.

all you need to do is be able to play a tune. then, everyone will listen.

think about it:

you're a middleaged guy chillin' in your house stressed out of your mind because you've got to deal with work, relationships, kids, everything. then, this young guy with a guitar comes to the door and sings you a song. he sings you a song about the open road, a place where anyone can be anything; he weaves a story about freedom. most of all, this young man communicates his own personal feelings to you, for no reason at all except that he wanted to brighten your day and maybe have a meal.

if i were that middleaged guy, i'd feed that young man. i'd give him my own goddamn bed. wanna know why? because he's out doing what everyone wishes they were doing/ had done when they were still young.

he knows what's up

he knows it.

and i should do everything i can to encourage it.




just a thought.....



keith sweezy

 

There could be a slower society, with less stress, less worries,etc. but everybody can't just quit their jobs. There still got to be some work to be done to maintain society. But I agree that people should focus on the true purpose of their life and less on money.

 

I am HORRIBLE at music. Any other ideas... other than music for money.

 

How would that work if everyone did it? There would be no middle aged man to take you in and feed you. For that matter, there would be no one to pick you up when you hitchhike.

If life on the road is what floats your boat, go for it. But you're kind of putting down people who choose a different kind of life. It can ALL be good!

 

Also unlike back in times when hitchhiking was common and safe, it is probably pretty dangerous now and you'd probably get raped and murdered... especially women which sucks. Sooo yeah I'm not gonna be doing any hitchhiking. It would be cool if the world was a safe happy place though!
And yeah people can't just quit their jobs all the time though it'd be nice. But the trick is to get a job you like and enjoy and support, or making your own job or business, not the easiest thing but wasting your life in a little office is pretty lame.

Ahh reality checks suck I know!

 

Damned teenagers with their guitars and their LSD! Get off my lawn!

 

lsd is bad/...........

 

Oh bad indeed.
And God is definately sexy

 

there's no such thing as bad

 

War is bad.
Killing is bad.
Rape is bad.
Taking someones dignity is bad.
Objectifying someone is bad.
Getting a bad dose and losing your eyesight is bad.
Never recovering from a bad trip is bad.
Persecuting someone because they believe differently than you is bad.

 

Oh yes, because we can solve so much more by being homeless bums.
People need to survive, and unfortunately not everyone can just "drop everything" and go be a hippie. Its not practical. It won't work, you'll just have a bunch of hungry, unemployed tweakers.
We need to pool our resources and use them to our advantage. There is nothing wrong with making a living.
You and I are both 19, still very young... put a bit more thought into your ideas and try being a bit more realistic....

 

Killing is Killing.
Rape is Rape.
Taking someones dignity is taking someones dignity .
Objectifying someone is objectifying someone.

 

And those aren't bad things?

 

I understand the power of music, but think your taking a very shelter view on how to fix our society. And I believe you may have been on LSD when typing this message.

 

Lol!

yea those things are bad,but its more dependent on the context in which you place these events as to how they are percieved.

 

All things are relative. I would be tempted to say that the only thing that's bad is polar absolutism, but I would be saying something that reeks of absolutism.

Good and bad are just as relative as wants and needs. Needs don't actually exist unless they serve to fulfil a want. I want to live, so I need air. I want money, so I need to work.

Just like rape is bad because it offends the human mind, but that assumes there is a degree of goodness as a standard in the mind. Culture always dictates what is seemingly good or bad. The things you listed as bad are only currently bad, they weren't necessarily several hundred years ago.

Imagine a future civilization on earth. They saw how badly we overpopulated the earth because of temporal convenience. They might conclude that that's the worse thing we ever did. So to them, things we might have done like genocide, killing, etc. would seem ultimately good.

It is abstract and philosophical, but believing that there's absolute good or absolute bad is misguided and hinders tolerance.

 

I really don't want to debate moral relativity with either of you. Those are things that I find distasteful, to say the least. I was answering burnabowl specifically who said "there is no bad". Based on my ethics, those things are absolutely bad. If declaring an absolute makes me a contributor to the bad in the world, I can live with that. Better to be branded a pariah than be saddled with bad kharma.

 

I think the most important thing in determining one's own system of ethics is seeing humans with the right perspective, that is to say, without the unmitigated sense of entitlement and the feeling that what happens to humans is paramount to anything else that can happen. It's only natural to conclude that rape, killing is outright bad, and I'm only saying they're not necessarily bad for the sake of discussion and for exercising fluid thinking. The mind is broader and more open to ethereal influences when it takes conventional moral prescriptions with a grain of salt (I'm not saying that you don't have a philosophical bent, I don't know that).

although I was mostly saying there's no such thing as bad in context of the person who typed that 'lsd is bad,' and my subsequent rhetoric was sort of a knee-jerk reaction to that, since it's obvious that lsd can't possibly be inherently bad, just as guns aren't inherently bad. They are tools that can be employed for purposes that you might judge good or bad, but it's the person that deserves the verdict, not the tool. I might even say that there is no absolute good, but there is absolute bad: humans.

 

On these points we agree. I was trying to figure out where rape, torture, genocide, and objectification of life would be relatively good. While not all human traits, we certainly seem to have mastered them.

 

Only thing that sucks about this idea minus the LSD, is when you need new guitar strings...or new shoes...or other things that keep you going. I found that out yesterday when my band had a show, and all my drum stuff was breaking that its time for a job. However I'll be walking and skating to my job. Fuck cars man!