Girls today

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by AlawlessLulu69420, Mar 3, 2007.

  1. AlawlessLulu69420

    AlawlessLulu69420 Member

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    I see girls about 12/13 years old with cell phones, mp3 players, low tops and tight pants, 13 years old people, in my opinion if that was my girl, i would smack her on the head and tell her to work for it. girls today are getting so spoiled and acting like sluts most of the time cause older guys are molesting them because these girls have no brains because they have no smart parents to tell them whats wrong and right. please someone HAS to agree this stuff needs to stop and let 13 year olds act like the normal age.
     
  2. alektrahippie

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    thatnkyou! this makes me mad all the time. altough im still young... i dont have a cell phone. i dont need one. none of my friens have them and were all keeping it that way. i just moved to a new school and when i said i didnt have one they looked at me like a was some sort of weirdo.
    altough i do have an mp3. but i certianly do not wear tight tank tops and tightsmall pants. it just makes me want to yell at the young girls with what they wear all the time.
     
  3. THE MIGHTY TOENAIL

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    Wow....I wonder why you are so angry? Talking about smacking people on the head...whether metaphorical or not - there's no need for that kind of talk. Maybe trying to understand young girls that behave in this way, combined with trying to understand and deal with why it makes you so angry would be a better start.

    Being a teenager is pretty hard, hormones just waking up, friends becoming more important, rebelling against parental authority. They aren't obliged to get it 'perfect'! That doesn't mean 'anything goes', but grouping them into one big lump and muttering "kids these days" to yourself does no good either. Each one is still special and unique and certainly still human - not just a faceless 13-year old with tight pants and a cellphone.

    And just to top it off...what is actually wrong with wearing tight pants and low tops? They're expressing their sexuality and I think that's fantastic. Maybe someone needs to help them by giving them advice such as telling them that wearing certain clothes will attract certain types of older men that they don't want - but that's not the same as telling them they can't wear those clothes at all.

    And as for an mp3 player and a mobile phone...if their parents have the money and want to spend it on their kids, what's the problem?

    This isn't a black and white situation here, and I would suggest that teenagers are acting more like "their age" today than any other time in history - because society is finally liberal enough to allow them to be who they are. 13-year olds can express themselves sexually somewhat today, as they ARE sexual beings. They can rebel against authority whereas 40 years ago they wouldn't have been able to. Our norms and customs are finally catching up with where we actually are :)
     
  4. sugrmag

    sugrmag Uber Nerd

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    Well, I know that when I was that age in the last 80s early 90s, we did that too-just differently. We teased our hair, tore holes in our jeans, had short short jean shorts, experimented with makeup, etc. No one was trying to dress like a slut, and most girls don't get molested because of the way they dress. It's a time of confusion. You don't know whether you are an adult or a child.


    That said, I have 2 daughters 8 and 4 yo. I have no idea what the trends are going to be and I'm terrified to find out!!
     
  5. Allonym

    Allonym cheesecake slut

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    i had a cellphone when i was 16 as a gift (and no i didnt pay for one penny of it personally, pay as you go an dmy parents always did the paying). we lived on an acreagea nd i like roaming around downtown between end of school and my parents endnig working (my ride back home) so it was nice to bea ble to get ahold of me or me of them regardless of where iw as. i had portable tape decks then cd players way before i ever had a job that my parents also bought fro me, because i did a lot of travelling by bus to get places (family lives two hours norht, visited them like eery other weekend). does that make me into oa slutty bad person? no its not an mp3 players but those werent out yet. hell, my mom bought me one of those minidisk players before i graduated just a sa gift cuz it was cool before mp3 playres became affordable. but, this make sme into a slutty bad person whos been molested by older folks an dmyparents too stupid to tell me whats right and wrong... because thye liked giving me stuff from time to time and were ok with me wearin ga skirt now and then :confused:
     
  6. katyismename

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    i think it's wrong to criticize young girls that have mobile phones and mp3 players. how would they be able to pay for these things by themselves?? do you expect 12 year olds to get jobs? you're not allowed to get a job till you're 16 where i live. perhaps the electronics where gifts, or their parents think they deserved one. mobie phones are a good thing anyway, young people can get in contact with their parents when they need to. they are cheap and good way to communicate with people, they can help you if you're lost or can't find a way to get home.
    it's the same with mp3 players. i don't see anything wrong with young girls listening to music.
    how you except 'normal 13 year olds' to act anyway?
    it's natural for young people to experiment with things like their appearances, music tastes, etc. young people have always rebelled and done this, it doesn't make them slags. it's all to do with growing up.
     
  7. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    good responses. I personally don't like the idea of 12 yo expressing sexuality so blatantly, and question a society that creates an early but extended adolesence.
    When children move home to the parents' after university, or after having thier own children, it shows a society that didn't prepare the kids to be adults.
    Foisting adult model behaviour so early is a symptom, not the disease.

    Plus, my son "baby sat" (more of a mother's helper role) and did errands for neighbors and bought his own gameboy at age 11.
    At 15, he's volunteering for the summer, so I'm coughing up an allownace to support that. (pocket cash is good. One might want to hop the bus on a really hot day, or grab coffee on an early morning)
    how do you know these girls don't look after their neighbors dogs, or kids, or even help in a family buisiness?

    why are you judging on looks so strongly?
    (sure I think most kids I run across are mannerless twits, but they exhibit that.)
     
  8. BodyElectric

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    I remember when I was called spoiled because my parents bought me my first computer(Tandy, baby!). They called my spoiled when I upgraded to my second computer (c64).

    Now those who criticized have one foot in the grave and I've been taught to ride the wave of technology and am ready to step up and take over the world!!


    (Oh god, who let me have a bowl that big, this early? :1eye: )
     
  9. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Every generation feels the need to somehow find the one following it as deficient. It boosts their own collective ego.
     
  10. THE MIGHTY TOENAIL

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    Well curiously, actually the first two posters were respectively 17 years old and 15 years old, both female. So it looks like the majority of the posters disagreeing with them are older, not younger than they are. I still want to know where the original anger came from. It's one thing to be worried about girls that dress provocatively and hang around the 'wrong' parts of town and therefore might be molested, or kids that have everything handed to them and therefore might not know how to take care of themselves...but this thread wasn't about that. It was about anger at the kids themselves, wanting to smack them (first poster), yell at them (second poster) and degrade them with words like "slut" and "no brains" (first poster). Why? Jealousy maybe?
     
  11. AlawlessLulu69420

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    well dont you find it awkward that little girls are running around in public with nooo parental watch and bragging on the little cells? I swear parents today def went down hill. they let them do whatever they want. i met this 13 year old who lied about her age to this 19 year old saying she was 17 and he believed her because she did look fuckin 17. i asked her what if they get caught having sex? her response.... "oh, i could just tell the cops he raped me and then boom i have nothing but hes going to jail" i was shocked by this response and i bet more say that...how do you feel about that?
     
  12. Sera Michele

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    I don't think the girls today are that different that the girls 5, 10, 15, 20+ years ago. The clothing styles and gadgets may change, but I think you are still going to find girls of all kinds. There have always been girls craving the sexual approval of older men, and girls that are strict tomboys that have no interest in dating, and girls that want the most popular or trendy things. Yes, I am a little taken aback when I see 13 year olds in the mall with their thongs showing, makeup caked on, and chatting on their sidekick and I wonder whats up with their parents, but I remember feeling the same way about the same type of girls 10 years ago when I was that age myself. I don't think anything much has changed.
     
  13. Medici999

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  14. Magical Fire Lady

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    I definitely think girls are different today. Firstly, the hormones in milk and meat contributes to it, they are developing way early.. And I have seen very young girls wearing provocative clothes and that worries me. It is weird to see them on cell phones and whatnot but I think its just a technology generation or something.

    But I do agree that parenting has gone downhill.. I mean look at all the obese kids... how neglectful. It is not hard to not give your child everything they desire. Especially when it can harm their health... There are so many parents these days that do not know what they're doing.
     
  15. Loveminx

    Loveminx Sports Racer

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    I never had a cell or mp3 player... >_<

    It's a period of confusion and experimentation.

    Let them pretend they're real teens. :tongue:
     
  16. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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    Are you a parent? I hope not.

    I really don't understand all this bullshit about "expressing" your sexuality. I definately have a sexuality, but you won't catch me dressing like a whore, and I'm 20. Other women can dress how they want, but we're talking about 13 YEAR-OLDS here. Seriously, can't you have a sexuality without subjecting the entire public to it?

    There is nothing "their age" about having sex and trying to attract older men when you're 13. It's sad, sad, SAD that we don't let our kids be kids anymore. Have you heard of those "Bratz" dolls? There was a discussion in another thread about them...they're these dolls that are supposed to be 2 or 3 year old kids, but they dress them like hookers and they all have this "attitude" thing going on. It's rediculous. Sure, there's hormones and crap going on when your a teen, but you have to learn one day--hormones or not--that the decisions you make (even, sometimes, how you dress) effect things.

    Does dressing like a whore make you a whore? I'll have to paraphrase Dave Chappelle on this one: "If you dress up like a cop, that doesn't make you a cop--but it sure as hell is going to confuse a whole lot of people."

    I don't see what's so "liberating" about allowing yourself to be treated/viewed as a sex object. A vagina is a sacred part of your body--it's not a damn VIP pass to get you what you want in life. True power comes from the mind, not between your legs. Grow up.

    (Sorry I got into a bit of a rant here, but it wasn't too long ago that I was 13, and part of the reason I was so miserable is because society makes it OK to be a rude, dumb-ass slut just because you hit a certain age. I'm not for "hitting" kids or anything, and I don't think having a cell phone necessarily makes you spoiled, but I'm speaking more of the whole "expressing your sexuality" bit)
     
  17. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    Children are losing their innocence much younger these days. Not that I condone paedophilia, but if your 8 year old is dressing in revealing vest tops, short skirts and knee-high boots, then it's a bit of a calling card really.

    Same when on holiday...little girls should not be wearing revealing bikinis etc.
     
  18. sugrmag

    sugrmag Uber Nerd

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    Really, are we living in the 1800s? Since when does wearing a mini skirt make you look like a prostitute? Come on.
     
  19. lucyloo

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    :hurray: I couldn't agree more. I think it's so sad that young girls are growing up so quickly, and that they think they have to parade their bodies and act like little whores. I'm not saying that they *are* but this is the behavior they are modeling themselves after. This is what's "cool". Why? I agree that it's just very sad and it has everything to do with parenting these days. However, no one should make them feel ashamed of themselves or their sexuality (however they choose to represent it). As someone else said, sombody just really needs to explain to these girls that if they are going to dress and act this way they are going to get plenty of unwanted attention from scary older men. Someone needs to teach them about self respect, about body image and sexuality in general. Who is going to teach them these things if not their parents? No one is there to show them how they *should* act. They only have role models in the media to base their behavior on. Many of them just don't have anyone to tell them whats right. It is really very scary...

    And i'd also like to agree that one of the reasons girls seem to be flaunting their bodies so young is that they actually *have* bodies to flaunt at 11 and 12 years old... bc of all the hormones in the shit we eat... the milk, the meat... so now all of a sudden 11 year olds have breasts and hips, and bc they don't have anyone to teach them to respect their bodies, they fall into this trap of confusion and sexuality.
     
  20. sugarmaggie

    sugarmaggie ~Green Eyed Devil~

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    I think little girls are growing up too fast today. My daughter (11 y/o) is constantly talking about the little girls in her grade. They're into Victoria's Secret and wearing thongs, padded bras..and their moms are buying the stuff for them. I can't imagine buying those things for my daughter. She does have a cell phone, but she has to earn money to buy her own minutes for it.
     

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