Get Rid Of Capitalism And Replace It With Something Nicer!

How? And what with?

 

Capitalism is just another word for greed, how do you get rid of it? Getting rid of money is a dumb idea because it's so good at what it does, and while there is money there will be those who seek it. The same would happen if you replaced it with goods and trade; some would want more and more, just because that's how they are.

 

I tried to start this a bit ago here: http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32364

but failed terribley i think

Love Clairexxx

**EDIT** p.s. I might add As a result of seeing the motorcycle diaries! Gets you that way dosn't it?

 

Capitalism isn't just another word for greed, it's far more intricate than that, far more tenacious. Moreover we have to look at the ideas we've help socially throughout history, how they've changed, evolved, often at great leaps and bounds. Things change, and human nature isn't static. Nor is capitalism sustainable indefinitely....

 

i think the first move should be to elect me as grand hi ruler of the world.. then i'd sort it all out from there.. easy.

 

Look I love ya yeh! But you couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.... sorry, but tis true

Roll up a spliff and and twist ya dreads

Love Clairexxxx

 

The real first step would be to unite the one's who want capitalism to end. Get rid of any internal arguing ... there are millions of us all wanting the same thing but all sitting in small factions fighting/protesting independently of each other.

 

ok fair point.. well made.. hmmpf
*goes and sulks in a corner* but i wanna be "KING OF THE WORLD!!!"

 

That's the thing totally.... it sounds so simple but in practice it's impossible

If we could get people just getting to the first step (at least) in unity we'd have some kinda movement going on. However we cant even unite long enought to get half way to the first step.

Am still all positive though

Love Clairexxx

 

Anyone seen the film "A Bug's Life"?

This is a great quote from it:

 

Definitely, without a doubt. There really are too few of us to be divided! But united we can spread a message and build a movement globally. So many have tried, but we keep stumbling. These are things I'm thinking very seriously about at the moment. I don't have any answers, but I want to find them. The whole anarchist/socialist divide has to end, and so too does sectarian infighting. There's far more to unite us than to divide us. There's only one enemy we should see here, and that is the system itself....

 

No it isn't, it's just highly improbable ... which means we can do it, or we can just sit around being defeatest forever.

(However without careful planning we'll get crushed at the first hurdle)

 

Thats why i said i stay postive... or why would i even bother with P & P?... but a cohesive movement has never happened before...

If we are gonna start a new movement (a more direct movement that is / has been around before) we need to get less wishy washy, which is what the UK has been on the whole.

Wanna get your hands dirty?... I will....

 

I'm more than happy to get my hands dirty. Maybe we should make a start here on the forums, in bringing people together around a new movement. Obviously something much bigger than the forums, and something that can reach a lot more people. But the ideas can start here. We're here, now, talking about it, and that's a start. If just a few of us know what we want, but not how to get it, then maybe we can work something out between us, and find a new way. We've got to work out a way to build something that can bring everyone together, all socialist, communist, environmentalist, peace, anarchist etc groups and parties, all of them, working together. What we don't want is another sectarian party that will end up with five members and be ignored, what we need is something that can unite not just the workers of Britain, nor even the workers of the world, but the people of the world! I'm working on some of these ideas at the moment, I may try to get some up on the socialist unity network, maybe as a piece of polemic on unity, and then try to get it out to all the revolutionary forces that I can. If we can all come up with ideas, then we really can make something happen. I take Jeremy Gilley as my inspiration, if one man can do so much with Peace One Day, think what we can all do together....

 

getting my hands dirty was recently added to my list of things to do

 

What exactly is this first step you millions of people are planning to take?

My idea would be: buy a country. OK, so maybe it's a capitalist idea, but it'd be a start. Do a massive self-sufficiency nation with all you millions of people there, growing yr own crops etc.

Do it NOW!

Props to the Bugs Life quoter.

 

It's too late for another way to be found in one country alone. Capitalism threatens our very existance on this planet. This needs to be global....

 

when have borders ever promoted world peace and unity?

 

You won't get peace and unity. There's millions of you who don't want capitalism, but there's at least as many who do. Are you going to impose your views on them? If you insist that everyone gives up capitalism, you are ethically as bad as those who insist that everyone adheres to it.

 

Most people don't understand the truth about capitalism, it's not just about making a few quid and earning a living for yourself, that's just basic survival and there's room for that in every society.

What we're talking about is an end to the exploitation of the world's poorest by the world's richest. They are in a minority and their lifestyle relies on bribing the rest of us to do their dirty work.