Freedom is...

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by nynysuts, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. nynysuts

    nynysuts No Gods, No Masters

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    Freedom is walking up a big hill just so you can run down it again.

    What's freedom to you?
     
  2. Quoth the Raven

    Quoth the Raven RaveIan

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    Freedom is nobody tells me what to do, when to do it or who I do it with.
    *I* decide all those, and it's bliss.
     
  3. sunyatasamsara

    sunyatasamsara Member

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    an illusion.
     
  4. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    owning your own island
     
  5. silverhippy

    silverhippy Comfortably Numb

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    Paying off my tab in the rats arms. JOhn won't give my dog back till I do. I want my Dog to have freedom. Set my Dog free JOhn.

    Peace
     
  6. PinkMoon

    PinkMoon Senior Member

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    Im waiting for Lithiums 'Freedom is...being up a tower'

    but for me... freedom is independence..from everything..
     
  7. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    Freedom is realising you are responsible and not someone else.
     
  8. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    Freedom is a distant memory; Swallowed up by the jaws of political correctness , health and safety and the anti smoking unions.

    Remember the time when you could smoke in a greasy spoon? It would be raining outside and you would be sipping on a cup of tea whilst smoking a ciggerette. Now you are criminalised the instant you light up in a public place.

    This is how Politically correct Britain has become.
     
  9. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Such a shame we no longer have the freedom to poison and very slowly kill off others and make the air unbreathable without having to cough and choke and getting the stench of it all over innocent peoples clothes and on their food before they eat it. I often think that. Such a shame

    FREEDOM is about being able to do whatever you like aslong as youre not harming anyone or anything else. My right to clean air that isnt harmful to me is a basic freedom

    Try lighting up a cigarette next to me or once the babys born and im holding them in my arms and id seriously knock you out. Im not a violent person

    Yeah, i should be gone already:p
     
  10. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    Freedom is a field of wheat on a sunny day, a Q and some baccy.


    Oh and on j0hns point, I'd say freedom in that sense is the freedom of a business owner to say whether people can smoke or not in his/her establishment.
     
  11. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    Do we really need Criminal smokers in overcrowded jails? Or waste millions of pounds prosecuting some guy who just wanted a five minute fag break in a court of law? There are terrorists and rapists, murderers and peodophiles to convict.Isn't that more important? Why do we no longer live in a rational state anymore?

    I agree.:gnorsi:
     
  12. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Freedom is a state of mind. Feels good :)
     
  13. Azog 150

    Azog 150 Member

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    lol, I highly doubt you would go to jail for smoking. A £100 fine maybe, but jail.....:p
     
  14. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    I wouldn't be so sure about that.
     
  15. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    I would, non-compliance with the legislation can only result in fixed penalties, up to £200 for those who smoke where it's not allowed and up to £2500 for businesses which fail to prevent people smoking. Such fines are very unlikely anyway, usually all you will get is someone yelling at you to put your cigarette out. It's incredibly unlikely the police and justice system will ever become involved at all unless say it's a pub or company which consistently allows people to smoke against the law or there is a public order issue where someone is refusing to stop smoking...
     
  16. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    If not now, it soon will be. Once our prisons start freeing up, just wait.
     
  17. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Don't be so very silly:rolleyes:
     
  18. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    Non payment of said fine could result in prison. A fine is mandatory. If they can't get that money because of loopholes in the law which state bailiffs can't smash your door down to get access. But if you don't let them in, they can't come in. Then prison is an option. Though we are not talking years, just three months which would be more like a month and a half.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Freedom is being able to sit in a greasy spoon and watching the rain outside while sipping tea, without having some fool light up a cigarette next to you and you getting instantly nauseous and beginning to worry about the long term health effect this fool has foisted upon you.
     
  20. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Then the crime you'd be sent to prison for would be non payment of a fine, not smoking in a public place...
     
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