Flying through the Fractal Stars and Wading in the Deep End (Methylone + DMT + DPT )

It was a Friday evening and I just got off a long day of work excited to get into some mephedrone after just getting paid. I go to the head shop and they already know what I want now but instead of pulling out the usual 'bath salt' the clerk pulls out an unmarked one that I foolishly did not even bother to ask any questions about. I go home unwind a bit and then drop 200 mgs of what I was expecting to be mephedrone.

I noticed at the onset it wasn't hitting anywhere near as hard as usual, I had ate within the past couple hours so I was thinking that may have played a role but after about 20 mins past the initial alerts I decided this product was in fact not mephedrone. It felt empathogenic but completely lacked the rush that mephedrone provides. I decided to make the best of it and watch some standup comedy and listened to some acoustic music to lighten my mood. It felt like methylone but certainly not the best methylone i've had either but we will go with that for the sake of this trip report. After 2 hours and a few insuffalated redoses I was kind of frustrated with how things turned out so far, I was still in a positive mood and decided to dip into some changa to see where it may take me.

DMT Stars

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I loaded the Changa between some mugwort, found a song I wanted to listen to and took a huge initial hit followed by a few more successful hits. I got the initial mystical/magical headspace I do usually on the onset of DMT but before I knew it I was just there, no carrier wave, no feeling of blasting off, no vibrations, I just found myself among thousands of interlocking geometric patterns. I was moving very very slowly through them and processed the patterns much more in depth with changa. The patterns had depth to them creating a vastness to the DMT space that stretched well beyond the minds eye. The music and methylone provided a very floaty body weightless feeling as I continued to glide through this very empty but amazing DMT space. This headspace was a complete 360 degrees filled place, everywhere my head turned patterns were awaiting. When the music started to break down and build back up towards the middle and end some of the shapes which had appeared triangular but offbeat (isoceles triangle) initially became much more circular and seemed to be spinning. The smaller shaped patterns could be made out individually but if I looked at a bunch of them grouped together they would comprise a larger pattern often different in shape than the individual patterns. Various circular star shaped patterns started to illuminate and it took on the appearance of as if looking up in a clear night sky for the first time ever in my life. I was struck with the 'vastness of it all' thoughts just as real and profound as looking at actual stars. The effects slowly began to waver after this.



Right in Two

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As the DMT was waning I decided to see where else I could go, I grabbed the needle and prepared 30 mgs of DPT, The Dpt onset was very similar with converging ripples wavering in my field of vision. I slowly got lost in the DPT trance, it usually just comes over me before I even notice. This time it had a very euphoric body high and absolutely no feelings of nausea or discomfort whatsoever. I closed my eyes and colored visuals started splashing into each other creating various indiscriminate objects which was similar to one in which one might associate with a rorschach (inkblot) test. I was feeling very up and not pinned to the bed like I normally do with DPT, I sat up and took a meditative position and nodded my head which seemed to intensify the trance. The instrumental tablas section in the middle of the song fit perfectly with the grounded tribal rhythmic feeling of DPT. I felt a connection towards ancient ancestors and the rhythmic nature of life. Then surprisingly the heavy outro metal part was very pleasing to my ears I basically awoke from the trance as the heavy guitars kicked in and started headbanging. Waves and vibrations of energy and color were winding through and around my being blasting in all directions. After the song I went back into light trance and enjoyed the effects for another 35 mins or so. The DPT with the methylone reminded me a lot of a candyflip in the sense that the sensory effects took precedence over the cognitive 'deeper' aspects of dpt, still very amazing in its own right.



After the DPT wore off I smoked some more changa but unfortunately all I got this time around was a slight change in headspace. I had one little bump of methylone left so I did that and did not get any sleep probably from my lower functioning cerebral systems being in complete disbelief and the stimulating aspects of the methylone.

Very interesting experience, it was really my first voyage with changa so I was surprised at how different that was than DMT and I know it goes beyond the methylone effecting it but I'm sure that may have played a role as well, particularly in the weightless feeling of the experience and how different dpt was with an entactogen. Probably a one time deal doing all 3 in a night but I'm very glad I went through with it.

 

Sorry the DMT pic is so big I can't edit the size of the picture on this computer.

 

Whoa, I love that first pic. Anyway, I'm glad you were able to manage and make the best of the trip even though it started out not what you expected it to be. I don't know if I'd be able to adjust if I ended up taking something other than what I originally thought... hmm...

Your description of DPT via IM sounds much more appealing than the terror-filled experiences I hear from those who insufflate... have you ever tried insufflation, if so, how would you say it compares? I know you have said before that plugging tends to lesson discomfort and body load with some chems, would you say the same is true for IM?

As always, a great report and I always admire the way you seem to effortlessly convey the ineffable in such a concise way.

 

I have not tried insuffalation with DPT, there are a few chemicals that I have both insuffalated and injected but the only one that would probably work at all in a comparison is ketamine.

Based on that, I find insuffalation feels more heavy/rough in a sense, compared to injection which is much more smooth. I dunno, something about hooting stuff up your nose that may or may not burn and drips down your throat spaced over a certain amount of time compared to just injecting straight into your system. Other than the fact dpt is a really strong experience, some of the physical effects of snorting may manifest psychologically which the user may or may not be aware of, if I had to guess that may be why more people experience terror through insuffalation.

Thanks for the compliments too, I was not planning on really writing a report for this one but you encouraged me to do so waa laa. I'm very excited for your report as well.

 

Great trip report GB thanks for sharing, bummer about the mephedrone though, glad you persevered

 

very good!! Youll know when your on methylone, great euphoric stimulation. but dmt is a hello of a eye opener. have not done it with a maoi like you. but great report

 

What an awesome TR. Talk about making lemonade out of lemons, omlettes out of broken eggs, etc., blah blah.

Because my ego is bloated, I am going to assume you used the changa tek I posted in the DMT section. It is very heavy in MAOI content which I have found can change, sometimes slow down and frequently lengthen the hyperspace experience. It also has a very heavy Blue Lotus component, which I find to be very calming, relaxing, tranquilizing, etc. and even if it's placebo, just eases me into the space so much better than straight freebase. I'll bet you got those profound effects because your "trip switch" was already someone thrown AND because you took such a huge first hit and then followed it up with more.

Bravo!

P.S.: I also LOVED the art and the size - I immediately grabbed it for my DMT screensaver.

 

yeah, i like your writing style too man. and that first, big picture

 

This makes a lot of sense... never thought of it that way, but a good way to look at it. I will admit that snorting intimidates me to a degree, so much so that I think I would favor trying IM (with an experienced sitter) for some chems.

 

I think you're right about the physical sensations of snorting and psychological terror connection guerr. especially with deep, and how it tastes (tastes like terror lol) and how it clogs up your nostrils and starts to make your whole throat numb and tingly.

insane combo man O_O you got cajones

 

jesus, insane combo!

yes...the intense nasal irritation definitely made my nasal DPT trials a bit [more] dysphoric

it seems like IM is the way to go with dpt.

 

As far as insufflation goes, from the experience my friend and I had the other night we both agreed we felt anxious, rather than terrified. I don't know if I've really conveyed the difference adequately, but it was less like we were frightened, and more that there was a looming sense of "something big" about to happen, and we felt both excitement and a touch of trepidation about what it might be.

 

I gotta agree with some of the other posters that this was an insane combo!

Do you think that DPT/DMT tolerance had something to do with the inability to get far with DMT on your second attempt with it?

 

Probably, I thought adding more maoi possibly might have offset the tolerance but it didnt really work. Maybe if I had waited like another 20-30 mins the 2nd round of changa would have been felt.

 

Update about my dreams:

The few days after this combo I did not notice anything out of the ordinary but the past few days I've had extremely detailed dreams, nothing really terrifying but I have woke up in the middle of the night the past few nights. Obviously causation cannot be drawn between the experience and the recent vivid dreams but perhaps there is some correlation. I do seem to remember DMT making my dreams more vivid before as well but the level of detail last night and the night before was pretty ridiculous.

Any thoughts, similar experiences post dmt and/or dpt use?

 

Awesome report mang

 

Your experience sounds amazing

 

Similar experiences after LSD trips, or after abstaining marijuana, and using opiates heavily.
Think you're reading too much into it.

 

yeah i get that from pot use/un-use sometimes. and with lunar cycles apparently

 

fair enough, I usually do not mind much attention to my dreams so I was surprised how vivid they were.