First true moral conflict

Well recently I have experienced my first true moral conflict. I mean since I starting using psychedelics for mind expansion. I consider that to be when my life truely began so I can say its the first moral conflict I have had. Anyways, my lover was at a friends house and one of my old friends was there. I say "old" because I havent associated with him in a long time because he has chosen a dirty path in life filled with drugs, deception, and ripping people off in every which way. So he was very drunk and tried to rape my girlfriend. Another girl was in the room but she was drunk also, and I dont think there was anything she could do. Luckily, the other people in the house heard my girlfriend objecting so the came in and stopped him before anything could happen and they made him leave. My girlfriend called me right away and told me what happened and for the first time in a VERY long time I was filled with rage. Super negative, angry, violent rage. So I have asked my old friend to square off with me and he has agreed. I am a boxer (just for sport, I dont believe in violence) so I am certain I will really hurt this kid. I am sure he wont even be able to hit me once. The problem is this conflicts with my values. I dont want to cause pain to anyone, but I feel this is something I HAVE to do. I am so deeply in love, and I would die for this girl, so I believe it needs to be done. In the name of love. And also I REALLY want to do it aswell... Any thoughts?

 

Kick his ass Seabass!

On a serious note though, I am sorry to hear what happened to your girlfriend... However, I think you should calm down and think about this. You say he was drunk, you should know by now how illogical a lot of people get in this state. Plus, what do you intend to accomplish by fighting with him? He doesn't really seem like the type of person that can be "put in his place" by such means. Does it seem to you like this person is methodically infatuated with your girl to the point of it being problematic in the future? Or was this just a case of a horny drunk idiot? If it isn't option number two, I would suggest getting the authorities involved and putting him where he rightly belongs so he does not cause you problems on a consistent basis.

 

He is scum, and I would like for you to kick his ass.

However, since you chose to make this a matter of ethics, I must ask: Will kicking his ass make a difference? Can you beat a conscience into him?

Morals are all subjective anyway, but what I think you ought to consider is consistency. Think about the basic principles upon which you've built your world view. Where does revenge fit in them?

 

an eye for an eye...

But seriously, kick his ass.

 

Dude, first of all, aren't you on probation? If you are not, then I recommend you beat the shit out of him, but only because that would be hilarious imo. If you still are, make him come to the gym, that way you dont find yourself in front of the judge because your emotions got the best of you. Trust me, they will NOT be lenient to your case should that unfold.
Most importantly, find out if your girlfriend is telling the whole truth. Im sure that suggestion will be disregarded, and I dont expect someone in love to question that which they thrive on, but I only bring it up because I've been around quite a few 'rape attempts' in my day, and every single one of them turned out to be a lie or overblown on from the girl's point of view.
You sure dude didnt just try to kiss her, and she made a big scene over drunken foolishness? I mean, attempted rape is like painfully forcing someone down and beginning to take some clothes off.
Anyway, I wouldnt go knocking anyone out while on probation unless I was there to witness the wrong doing for myself. If I only had a dime for knocking out every fucker who crossed me the wrong way...

 

When you asked him to square off, you were overpowered by your rage. Now you are in control again, and realize that violence is not the answer to this, it never was, and it never will. The net outcome of you going through with this will most likely be negative. Your girl may even look down on you for it, or not.

You should let him know you're no longer interested in fighting him, he's not worth your time, and absolutely shut him out of your life in every way. If you ever see him again in any way in your life, immediately let him know he is not welcome anywhere near you or anyone you know.

This isn't so much a moral quandry as it is a choice between satisfying your primal emotions or fixing the situation. Only one ends well. There's no conflict here, choose the one that ends well

 

Sometimes you just gotta kick someone's ass man.

 

Then ask him to turn the other cheek.

 

Feelings are transient. Observe your rage with this truth.

 

If you think you have to, then you have to. If you think that maybe you don't have to, then you have more roads open to you. And more options is always better.

 

Dont, violence never solved anything. Even violence fighting violence wont fix anything except for immediate, temporary satisfaction for yourself. In my opinion.

 

Yeah I agree. I know you're mad. I would kick his ass too. But I highly suggest that you don't resort to violence. I'd avoid him for awhile, if not forever.

But what will you get out of beating him up? A sense of security that he won't do it again? You don't need to hurt him to get that.

At most, just fuck with his head. Not like harassing him or anything, but make him feel like shit. Tell him how low he is. Tell him the truth. It'll let you get your anger out, and you won't get arrested. It does suck, I know. I've been through a very very similar situation which i handled the wrong way.

peace!

 

You cant change the past... fighting him will solve nothing.
Think before you act, make good decisions.

 

You don't believe in violence?
Beliefs tend to come to the test in practical situations. It's easy to say you believe something, but practicing it is how you prove your belief to be true.

Possible consequences aside, what is it going to solve?
Do you think it'll make you feel better? Make someone else safer? Prove your love to your woman? Revenge is not going to leave anyone better off.

 

Disregard all others who say don't use violence.

what happened (assuming it was true) has nothing to do with touchy feely peace nick ideals of non violence and forgiveness.

you should knock this guys teeth out, blacken his eyes and cauliflower his ears. Not only will he not bother your girl again but I bet you wont ever see him again.

Think of it as practice, I take karate and it bothers me that I never get to use it in real life, well id imagine boxing is similar. Put on the moral blinders, tap into the rage and start swinging and don't stop until he isn't moving.

 

Think of it in the cosmic sense. When this guy attacked your girlfriend, he took advantage of a situation, he put negative energy in the pot, which has to be equalized. The only way to rectify the situation is to make him feel the way your girlfriend felt. You dont have to hurt him, it would be irresponsible, just put fear in him. Really at this point its your duty to make sure he never tries this shit EVER again. If you dont fight him, and he actually does rape some chick, how would you feel?

 

balancing cosmic energy doesn't mean creating negative to balance negative. You can't destroy war, with war.

If you want to balance out the input from the rape situation, then balance it by forgiveness and compassion, which is the opposite of the rape situation, would you not agree?

Then again, who made you Balancer Of Universal Karma? Do you have a degree in that? Do you have a special mark on your forehead like Harry Potter?

The universe is always balanced. Always. With or without you.

 

It's very logical, but probably not appropriate in this case. Sometimes you can't always forgive and let things slide. I would rather hurt myself by being negative than allowing someone who thrives in negativity to continue to harm others.

 

there will always be harm

there will always be negativity

why choose to let it in your heart?

 

why not?
Just the flip side of the coin.