I wrote this on August 26, 2008. I'm new to this forum to share my first experience (and hopefully future experiences) and hear feedback on them. Let me start by saying that I am NOT a frequent drug user. I have smoked marijuana infrequently over the past 5 years and have once tried opium once in my life (convinced to by my brother). Neither are pleasurable highs for me, especially opium. I first heard about salvia divinorum about 3 years ago when my brother tried it during our high school’s spring break. He described an undesirable experience of being in another world which at the time really turned me off from ever wanting to try the drug. However, over the past year as the popularity of salvia has grown I have become more interested in the herb after reading and understanding more about it. This summer, my best friend and I decided that we would try it before school began and so, pushing it to the last possible day, we bought it with another good friend last night. Not using drugs often, we ended up forgetting that we’d need more than just salvia to smoke and had to also purchase a water bong along with the herb, shelling out an extra $15 for the cheapest bong we could find. When we arrived back at my house I filled the bong with ice and water and let it sit for a few minutes to get it very cold (I had been told that this would make the smoke feel a lot better as it went down.) We decided to go in turns and my best friend insisted on going first. I would go second and our other friend, third. He took one hit of about .15 grams and experienced a semi-bad trip of being chopped up by my ceiling fan into little pieces of candy. He ended up telling us “Don’t do this man, you don’t want to do this” about 5 times before he came to. I was feeling a little anxious by this point but decided for sure to go through with it nonetheless. Attempt #1: I went to my bathroom and took a hit of about .1 grams of salvia, held it in while I walked to my bedroom. I quickly sat down on my bed, counting to 20 the entire time. After 20 seconds I exhaled and did not really feel anything at first. I tried to see if I could induce any sort of trip but nothing seemed to work. I waited another couple minutes before getting up from the bed and saying “I definitely need another hit.” As I said that I realized that my knees felt like they were melting wax, and that I was much shorter than everyone else in the room. Still, though, I was near completely sober in mind. I took one more hit, this time getting an almost euphoric feeling as I walked back to my bedroom again. However, I again did not experience any sort of trip. Our third friend said that I should wait a few minutes and let him smoke first before I went for a second time. He smoked about .15 grams and had about a 15 minute long trip that started with intense laughing and squirming on my bed and ending with him thinking that everything in the universe (atoms, DNA, matter, etc.) was made up of L’s. Yes, the letter L. Now I was pretty excited to go again because I was jealous of them both having pretty weird experiences. Attempt #2: I walked back into the bathroom and loaded a bowl of about .15 grams of salvia, cashed the bowl and walked back into my room. After 20 seconds I tried a new technique of exhaling that my brother recommended where I exhaled slightly, inhaled, then repeated the process about 4 times. I started to get a very unusual feeling and realized that the trip was about to come on. All I could manage to get out was “Yeah I’m abou—” and I was saying ‘about’ my voice went very deep. I do not remember the next couple of seconds but my friends said that I continued in the low voice and said the word “bubble”. This is where things got really weird. The next thing I remember is being no longer in a body, but only a living consciousness. I was no longer in a human body, I was no longer myself, I had no recollection that I had smoked salvia. I had no memories of my life on earth, but here I was a part of a greater network of consciousnesses. I was in a void of neither darkness nor light and the beings around me were soft pink colored, 3-dimensional rectangular vessels that each was their own consciousness. I had an innate feeling that they were my family, and I communicated telepathically. I felt the most calming peacefulness when I was near them. This was all early in the trip and my friends recall me looking up towards the ceiling and saying, “This is the true path, this is the only way” in a weird, soft but high voice. My friend said it seemed like a horror movie to him and that I seemed possessed. In this void I had certain knowledge that each of these beings was also a universe. They were conscious, living universes and I was one of them. However, within a few brief moments I began to feel that we had to leave somewhere. There was a giant wheel, similar to a wagon wheel in shape, that for each spoke on it represented a different time, place, and life (of my ultimate consciousness, I can now presume.) I believed that my family would be coming with me on this wheel to wherever we were going, as they followed me towards it. At this point I remember very vaguely saying, “Here comes the train” out loud. As I got closer to the wheel I began to merge into it, and it began to spin with me on it. My family of conscious beings began to get left behind, but I could not get off of the wheel. They had tricked me into leaving them!!! I began to feel a pulling sensation away from them and then I had a brief memory of this life in which my dad and brother were in it. I still did not begin to realize what was happening. I begged and screamed inside this void towards my family to bring me back to them, but I was pulled faster and faster away. I began to comprehend that my consciousness was being pulled back into my life here on earth. Images of my room started to come back to me for split seconds in between spinning on this wheel and feeling the pulling sensation. I recall speaking back and forth in between a really low and really high voice but do not recall what I was saying (and haven’t asked my friends what they heard.) When I saw my room for about the third time I realized, Oh WAIT! I am on salvia!!! This is a trip!. I sat up and said aloud “THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!” and then sat back. I began to realize that I was soaked in sweat, and my body felt like a shell because I could feel all of my exposed skin as it was being cooled by the air blowing in my room. My brother was in my room by this point and now I was trying hard to get back into my life on earth and off of the spinning wheel. It was a hard decision to make at first but I began to realize that I loved my life here too and wanted to be back with my family on earth. I finally came back into consciousness after having a hardcore 8 minute trip, but I continued to feel the effects of salvia for another 10 minutes, just not nearly as intense. I used the time to explain what had just happened to my friends but was still not completely coherent until 18 minutes after I had smoked. It was the most profound experience that I have ever experienced; it felt just as real as anything in life does. The love I felt for my family in the void was just as much as the love I felt for my family here on earth. It was truly amazing. I recommend that everyone should try salvia divinorum at least once in their life, but always with a sitter or two present.
this post just made me so excited to trip even tho i havnt tripped the 2 times ive done salvia. seems like u were enlightened or someshit
My first (and most likely last) experience with saliva was more or less identical to what you described. The "plot" of our trips is very different but the overall feeling is very similar. I, too, felt a oneness with the world and that all my life was was a series of deja vu's and that I must choose to either break this cycle or relish the best aspects of life and repeat them. The after effects of my trip are exactly like yours. I wasn't scared as much as I was incredibly happy and relieved to be back with my friends and family again. After that night I realized life is too short for any negativity towards anyone. I realize that we are all one, and to be disrespectful to anyone is to be disrespectful to all mankind. This is beginning to be a rant. I will post more detail on my trip a bit later.
Wow that's weird, a friend of mine gets a similar experience with letters. After a trip where she mumbled "the letters the letters" she explained to us that each one of our consciousnesses was a letter and she was the last letter at the end of some sentance or something and she felt vulnerable because she knew being at the end meant she was close to her death (?). She said the other letters (us/our energies/our consciousnesses) took her and folded her up like a beach chair (I'm not sure if she meant her physical body or her the as letter. Seems weird shit with letters are recurring themes also forgot to mention all her trips (on salvia)follow this theme
self just started tripping with family involvement, kind of trippy and no where near as fierce or disturbing as they used to be, I don't really understand or remember what was being addressed but I believe that salvia is way closer to reality as we know it to be than we can possibly see, we in the sense of one, With meditation and focus and the right environment the facts might stick, but anytime I trip with family near family seems to come find me as my trip is ending. At one point not related to family, actually twice this happened but when I was out side I would hear birds chirp and it was as if my hands which were moving like a conducters would, had the birds singing in tune to my movements, what this might mean I will not speculate, the same happened where a fly would land on my face when I looked at specific parts of a big eucaliptus tree or a hawk would soar wherever I looked. VEry grounded yet totally eerie and awesome a feeling. Closest trip had that might resemble a letter was when I was in my car, my friend was driving, was on e and trees, hit that shit and was coming too (all that was remembered) and saw a plus sign that I basically flowed with and drew with my hands and arms. It was as if that was what musical rythm was engrained in me to follow or really in general cause when I do follow it, it resembles a possibilty to make any move while dancing, hard to explain really, but imagine a plus sign in front of you and with both arms bring them up and then down and or to the sides, I may have a future as a conducter what yall think?
i had a similar experience where i glimpsed into all the rectangular dimensions and then circled through all of them, while taking on various forms, and seeing images from the past. then i felt a strong pull, so i ended up following it and then saw my freinds in another dimension, and eventually forced myself back in. Then i was all confused about whether i had landed in the correct dimension. Its like the environments arrangement was different then it was before
WOW! Everyone seems to be experiencing the wheel! If I take a strong enough hit I experience a long wheel ride. At the end of one of those trips I was talking to this guy and every thought and idea I told him to what we humans think the universe is he threw it away like saying every idea we've ever thought about the universe and reality is utterly wrong. It was a good trip... I just let back, closed my eyes and accepted the plants power.
Afterthoughts: A Wheel of Time and Dimensions is the only way I can describe it. As I began to spin on the 'wheel' I realized that each 'spoke', or section, of the wheel was a different dimension. These dimensions contained any period of time in my life within them which I could see from afar as I was pulled directly back into the present time. I had no control over this pulling and it was almost as if I had escaped briefly from my life and out of time but in order to maintain dimensional stability I had to return to the exact time that I had left (sounds nerdy but that's the only way I can think to understand it). I know it sounds weird but this is what I have gathered from thinking about the experience in the time since it happened. Also, a brief part of the trip that I originally didn't have in the story because I remember it so incompletely and fragmented was that towards the beginning, probably somewhere around the time that I said "bubble", I remember some sort of metaphysical 'curtain' being pulled apart as I entered this Void of Consciousness outside of time. Almost as if the reality we know was being pulled apart to reveal the true reality of our existence. Most of this is very dim and vague memory though so I would only count on what the original account in the first post says.
I'd say just go down to your local head shop or order online, but I think it may be illegal in VA (which means no one will ship it to you). That said, it's legal in virtually every state surrounding you, except Tennessee. Take a trip (no pun intended) to a neighboring state and pick some up at a local head shop and try it. if you like it, take another trip (again, no pun intended) back and stock up.:cheers2: Make sure you have at least 10x (5x or less never did shit for me) and a sitter, if you're not an experienced psychonaut! Approach Lady S with an open heart and mind...along with much humility. Enjoy!!
kewl thanks , i have done peyote and pot , but i was jsut wondering i may try when i get a car thanks