Fee Demo bullshit!

Discussion in 'Rainbow Family' started by raven23, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. raven23

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    Did you know that a rider on some whatever bill in congress is to be passed today putting a day use fee on all national forest land. Karin Zirk of the L.A. family has been emailing like crazy for the past week trying to get people to contact their congressman (the story of how this rider got attached to the bill is downright evil government bullshit). But today was the day as far as I know. Perhaps at Nationals we'll all need to pay up or get ticketed. Bullshit! Your government is fucking you up the ass, America! Now you have to pay to access your own lands...
     
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    I'm in a bad mood today, sorry...
     
  3. busmama

    busmama go away

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    I love you Raven!!! So are you still heading to Canada?
     
  4. gmdukes

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    Your Gay
     
  5. paix

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    I know both of them, niether is homosexual, and niether deserves to be insulted by you.

    hey Raven, you guys heading through cali? I'd love to meet Kristy and see you both!
     
  6. raven23

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    everything is up in the air. its a really bad time for me actually. serious depression, anger about the least little thing. neither of us can make up our minds, and i am not motivated to work towards any plans. im stuck for now. dont know what to do at all. at all. go home, hitch out, i dont know. i cant work in this country, cant support myself, cant get meds if my situation gets worse, i might have to go home, but there is no home, just one big country where i never made enough friends to have a place to get back on my feet, too cold to live outisde. so i dont know, i really dont know. really really stuck
     
  7. gmdukes

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    shut up with your bitching. you are a bum and a loser. when will you realize this>?
     
  8. raven23

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    thanks for your kind works, idiot whose name ive already forgotten. it makes me feel so much better to know that at least my life isnt so bad that i have to resort to cowardly insults to strangers on the internet. usually i would just ignore you until you go away, but im felling compassionate today and bored and figure ill play your game for a little bit and insult you in return because i know your self-esteem must be low and you need someone to insure you that you are as much a waste of space as you feel you are.
     
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    dang raven ,, ya sound down brother,,,(((hugz)))),,, you do know you are always welcome back here,,, i knows what we gots aint much n what we pay aint gonna make ya rich but we can always use more postholes dug:) and we are workin on a cabin thats gettin finished n a few other projects gettin in the works,,, anywho keep in touch n know we think of ya often n head back ere for a bit iffin ya need too
    luv n lite, hhb n dilli
     
  10. busmama

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    Chris you know there's always Florida. Things are pretty good here. The weather is fine. We all have our bad days, know that we are loving you and sending lots of good {{{{{{hugs}}}}} Your way!!

    :rolleyes: I'm not sure how a female and a male can be gay together.

    I know you are a hard worker and a great friend, so ignore the idiots and keep up the good vibes.;)
     
  11. gmdukes

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    Pppfffffff. Fuck You You Fucking Faggot Piece Of Shit.
     
  12. Bug_Man

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    Like my mama always said, "It takes one to know one." Love Bogs.
     
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    Mad Gay
     
  14. raven23

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    For more information:
    Robert Funkhouser, 802/235-2299, rfunk9999@earthlink.net
    Kitty Benzar, 970/259-4616, wsnfc@hotmail.com

    WESTERN OUTCRY FAILS TO STOP OHIO CONGRESSMAN'S
    RECREATIONAL ACCESS TAX

    Despite a last-minute outpouring of letters and phone calls and a flood
    of
    negative editorials, an Ohio congressman with no public lands in his
    district has forced a measure through Congress to implement permanent
    access
    fees for recreation on all land managed by the Forest Service, Bureau
    of
    Land Management, U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service, and Bureau of
    Reclamation.

    Ralph Regula (R-OH), the original architect of the unpopular
    Recreational
    Fee Demonstration Program (Fee Demo), attached his bill as a rider to
    the
    giant omnibus appropriations bill. Originally passed on November 20,
    the
    omnibus unexpectedly had to be revisited by Congress because of
    language
    objectionable to privacy-rights groups that would have allowed certain
    members of Congress to scrutinize individual tax returns. The omnibus
    bill
    passed Monday evening, December 6th.

    Opponents of Regula's bill seized the opportunity to mobilize a massive
    phone call and letter-writing campaign in a last-ditch attempt to
    delete it
    before the final vote. Despite thousands of letters and phone calls and
    press coverage coast to coast, the effort failed. Fee opponents have
    vowed
    to take their fight to the next Congress.

    The fee bill, HR 3283 or the "Recreational Access Tax" (RAT), allows
    the
    federal land management agencies to charge access fees for recreational
    use
    of public lands by the general public. It has been highly controversial
    and
    is opposed by hundreds of organizations, state legislatures, county
    governments and rural Americans.

    "This is a bad bill and it is a bad tax. It will not be accepted by the
    American people," said Robert Funkhouser, President of the Western
    Slope
    No-Fee Coalition, one of the groups coordinating opposition to public
    lands
    fees. "It was forced through without passing the House or any hearings
    or
    debate, much less a vote in the Senate. Such a major change in policy
    should
    be done in an open public process, not behind closed doors. Congressman
    Regula has sold out America's precious heritage of public lands."

    Key provisions of the RAT include permanent recreation fee authority
    for
    National Forests and BLM land as well as all land managed by the U.S.
    Fish
    and Wildlife Service, the Bureau of Reclamation, and the National Park
    Service. Failure to pay the fees will be a criminal offense. Drivers,
    owners, and occupants of vehicles not displaying either a daily or
    annual
    pass will be presumed guilty of failure to pay and can all be charged,
    without obligation by the government to prove their guilt. The measure
    encourages agencies to contract with private companies and other
    non-governmental entities to manage public lands. The bill also
    establishes
    a national, interagency annual pass called the America the Beautiful
    Pass,
    expected to cost $85-$100 initially.

    "Congressman Regula has claimed that fees will be limited to only
    highly
    developed facilities," said Funkhouser. "But the actual language is
    very
    broad and contains internal contradictions. The RAT prohibits entrance
    fees
    for Forest Service and BLM managed lands on one hand and authorizes
    basic or
    standard fees for the very same lands on the other. It gives the
    agencies a
    free hand to decide how large an area a fee can apply to, and it calls
    for
    essentially only a toilet in order to qualify. Make no mistake, this
    bill
    transfers ownership of our public lands from the taxpaying public to
    the
    agencies. These agencies have a long history of financial bungling and
    mismanagement, and should have more congressional oversight, not less."

    Fee opponents plan to work closely with the incoming 109th Congress to
    repeal the Regula bill, and anticipate strong bipartisan support in
    both
    houses. In the meantime, the Western Slope No-Fee Coalition will be
    monitoring agency implementation of the RAT to ensure that the agencies
    do
    not implement fees outside this new law. Regula's bill failed to
    attract a
    single western sponsor but was co-sponsored by seven eastern
    congressmen.

    Regula is seeking to become Chairman of the powerful House
    Appropriations
    Committee and is running into stiff opposition from Congressmen Jerry
    Lewis
    (R-CA) and Hal Rogers (R-KY). While Regula has no public land in his
    district, both Lewis and Rogers districts have vast tracks of Forest
    Service
    and/or BLM managed public lands.
     
  15. papabear

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    during clintons reign the national parks got sold out from the people. the national parks pass get you in to all the national park for a price of a least 65 dollars, or you can go to each park and pay seperate entrence fees wich add up to more than 65 dollars quick with eack park askin a price of 10 dollars or more "Grand Canyon" was like 20 dollars and my famliy and i went to 18 national parks. so now i guess we get sold out again, i could see them askin a hundred dollar fee just so you could go camping. we lived in alot in the national forest last year rent free with a two week stay it was nice. unless you were in sedona on 89b then you had a red rocks pass for 5 dollars a day or twenty dollars a yr. and california was doing the same thing, i remember gorman you get a free weekend on a certain part of the month the fee was the same. but if you had the upgraded parks pass you didnt have to pay. thats America for you Raven land of the free as long as you pay and home of the brave bullys who want to kick when your down.so as a good little tourist "remember tomestone. " i got my tags i got my lisence, i got my insurance i guess next i need my national country pass or my papers as might be refered. as long as i have them they dont see my bus. kentucky might have a check point. california already does those places on 15 and other parts of the state. and others states are getting them just watch and see. we are going into a police state and its scary. i just keep my faith in father above and pray for hideing, praise jah. we all have to use discretion and not advertise. bush is going to make us pay for his war so we can buy his oil.
     
  16. raven23

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    maybe it's suppossed to be funny. some kind of big cosmic joke that only the enlightened can grok. Hey maybe at next Nationals they'll decide we're all in violation, 60,000 of us. By then there'll be no courts, just cops with the power to try and imprison, and they'll decide that there isnt enough jail space for all 60,000 of us and so they'll put us under house arrest, right there in the National Forest. they'll put up a big fence to keep us in, but we'll call it the fence that keeps them out, and they'll send food in to us, (but eventually we'll be growing our own, and our little patch of NF will be rainbow nation from then on. when they take the fence down none of us will want to leave, so we'll refuse to sign permits again and they'll put the fence back up and go away.
     
  17. papabear

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    thats a vision brother. we could grow mass crops of hemp to make our oun shoes and clothes. better make that canibiss so we could utalize the whole plant. it will be utopia.
     
  18. raven23

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    Maybe it'll happen in Ocala, cause this years National is in Vermont or Maine or something and that's too cold. But there would be Maple syrup, imagine the maple syrup zu-zus we could make. Ok, so it''l happen in the NE
     
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