I'm not the most die hard punk fan out there but I do enjoy and know a little history about punk. I was just curious to ask you die hard punk fans.. Do you get annoyed when people confuse emo bands with punk? I mean lets face it, on the world stage punk has been dead for a long time.. It kicks around underground but your average teeny bopper with his sisters jeans on and "cutting is cool" tattoo is using the Punk genre to disguise emo from what is really is. Agreed? Explain?
yes yes and yes. although the "emo" kids dont really hide behind the punk facade. but kids that are a part of the mainstream say punks cut and shit like that. its pretty rediculous.
didn't emo originally came out of some kind of hardcore subgenre? anyway, it's way of it's roots nowadays. i believe emo ain't got no integrity at all, just mainstream
emos dont know what punk is. they know what the've been told by mainstream society and the media. It seems to me its just another way for kids who are pissed off at there parents because they dont get enough attention to say"you just dont undertand". thats just my view
Got a Rites of Spring CD, got a Fugazi CD, got a My Chemical Romance CD, and I thought: how sad is music nowadays!
I think people are being kind of hard on the whole emo thing. I mean i know alot of people that are definitely into Punk and Emo. After all emo is simply short for emotional and there is Punk music that is Emo. Taking Back Sunday for example falls into both categories.
Punk has dispersed and can be heard in many contemporary bands that have nothing to do with the original punk scene. The Strokes, The White Stripes, The Red Hot Chili Peppers are all punk influenced group. I'd say most of the rock groups out now that aren't Hinder and shit like that owe a lot to punk. I'd say nothing bothers me more than people equating the 80's hardcore movement to true punk. The original wave of punk was pretty dead by 1980, when hardcore began. Hardcore (black flag, dead kennedy's, circle jerks, etc) is okay but it did not define punk, it was just an offshoot of the original scene.
The emo image is more than a bit annoying, yes, but I think people that are constantly on about how they hate emo are much, much more pathetic than even the most pseudo-suicidal, most effeminate and most diagonally-fringed emo in existence. So you don't like their music, or the image surrounding it. Okay, there's nothing wrong with that. But you've already had years and years worth of time to bitch about it. Everything that can be said about emo has been said, and repeating it doesn't help, and what's more, it makes YOU look like the whiny son of a bitch, instead of the emo. Besides, hasn't it ever dawned to you that emos are also just people that like a certain style of music and lifestyle, and tend to dress accordingly. So do true punks, so do metalheads, and so did the hippies. I don't get what makes emos different.
To be honest, emo's what made me into more of a hippie. I got sooo sick of all the depressing, whiney music that my friends listened to, that I turned totally the other way and now here I am! It's one of the best things to happen to me... I love punk and heavy metal, I hate it when someone calls it 'emo'... emo is like punk with all the good bits taken out and put through a laundrette. Lame. But whatever floats your boat, y'know... :S
Mush, I don't know you but you know what you're talking about. Punk was and is about energy and the empowerment of the individual: it was a very positive movement and changed the face of the world forever, not just music. Emo appears to be about being spoiled and lazy. So you're misunderstood? Okay, well work towards making yourself better understood by the world. Find your place. Do something, take action. Don't sit around and brood. I probably don't understand the scene enough to make an informed criticism of it though but emo as a movement seems to be a passing trend whereas punk was a full blown revolution, like the hippie movement in the 60's. One has so much more substance to it and appears to me to be far more useful to society.
emo kids ARE NOT punk. they're the opposite of punk. they're everything punk is NOT. maybe they WANT to be punk, but you take Flogging Molly and Hawthorne Heights and put them in a room to fight it out, Hawthorne Heights word kill themselves before Flogging Molly got a chance to hurt them.
No, I don't get annoyed when someone confuses emo with punk, they voluntarily identify themselves for targeting making my task all the more easier, fukhead baseball! It' s a therapeutic process. People who need unfucking will be tend to.
The sad thing is emo used to be the same way, and overlapped a lot with punk. Rites of Spring, Fugazi, Dag Nasty, Jawbreaker, etc... And now the whole genre has been completely bastardized by these new whiny, obnoxious, and apparently tone-deaf bands that really have nothing to do with the original movement. Oh well, such is the world.
its patethically stupid on how people specifically rant on emo kids. I hate it more when they complain about their fashion sense. Hey, take a look at the hip hop kids. they dress in a uniform too so go rant on them.