Drug Newbie

Hello,

I've always told myself that at some point I'd probably try some psychedelics, or at the very least smoke some weed, and now I believe I'm ready. In order to cope with reality of life (I'm an Atheist that has very unpopular beliefs because of the way I interpret reality), I feel that drug use is almost a driving necessity. I've opted for a life of complete hedonism (and if that requires the judicious use of drugs, so be it); I'm trying to cram as much pleasure as I possibly can into one day.


However, I've had to give it careful, logical consideration. I'm trying to make sure which drugs are entirely safe, and while I know it depends on the person, I'm lead to believe that marijuana and certain psychedelics like DMT are pretty safe under most circumstances. I plan to do these drugs in the locked privacy of my own home or at any friend's house whenever I can, but I'm also worried about getting caught, a lot. Luckily, I've been concocting ways to kill myself if that were ever the case, or mentally preparing myself for the idea of prison - I plow through every day, take risks, knowing that I might go to jail every day.

Few questions:

-What are the best, safest drugs in your humble opinions (any well-reasoned stoners here)?
-Would marijuana in lollipop form or brownie form be the best way to take it? Also, how likely is lung cancer just by smoking marijuana?
-How good of a drug is Salvia? I've heard mixed things.
-How badly does marijuana impair judgment? How well does it improve perspective?
-What drugs provide the most powerful hallucinations? I would suspect DMT, based on what I've read. I've been really intrigued by the drug of DMT ever since I first heard and read about it, but I've heard a handful of people say that there's not really an amazing quality to it.

 

dmt is intence but sucks

matijuana is all i will do anymore
acid and shrooms and peyote are definately worthwhile but for you...not yet

in fact no psychodelics period till you stop thinkijng of just in case ways to ofgff yourself

smoke find yoiur self your ballance and find a way to not reach for excess ... then when in the perfect location try harder psychodelics


and nothing else

no extacy no hard drugs no pills stay pure in your use

but know how your personality may drive u towards more

talk to me anytime

hugs

 

I tried salvia yesterday, first drug I've ever tried. For me it did nothing, but then I don't think we smoked it right. Tasted like spines as well...

 

hmm.

Well, whatever happens, dont let people tell you that marijuana is totally safe. It affects everyone differently. I've smoked it about 10 times starting about 5 weeks ago, and dude it changed something in me, I can't even define for you what it is or what it is doing, all I can tell you is I dont like it and I cant make it go away, and I haven't smoked in about 2 weeks.

Most people will tell you that weed is the safe, easy, beginners choice that you will always come back to and always have fun on, but that is not the case.
Everything you put into your body you should treat it with respect and know what it could potentially do to you.

It might affect 1 in a million people adversly, but you could always be that one.

 

Thanks for the posts.

Hmm, very odd. It's comments like these that make me timid about trying it at all even. I find it odd that it would permanently change something in you. What do you think the scientific explanation of this would be - some chemical triggered off some kind of change in you, for the worse?

 

Well, I've felt like this for 5 weeks, and the sensations are so peculiar that I have no way of describing them.

At the same time, I can't tell if they are purely mental, physical or a combination of both, so there is absolutely no way I can advance some sort of scientific explanation.

 

i can tell you what it is you dwell on it imagining it

last time we heard that waws a kid saying help i smoked one time and ive been high 3 weeks



he smoked oregeno and imagined being high 3 weeks...lol


salvia i would avoid nevedr touvched it but sounds cary as hell and stupid


pots safe ... for 98% 1-2% may have an alergic or adverse reaction

a aditional 1% may think they had



psychodelics like acid require extreme reverence they are poiwerful
they can crack open youir mind and make rainbows explode from your eyes

they can trigger things in your mind


mdma feels great... does great dammage
wouldnt bothr

rc's never tried em never will dont trust em


peyote.. can be very spiritualy awakening seek a shaman if u can

if u can be satisfied with just weed then just stick to weed




love yourself when u do anything

 

is unpreditable and taste nasty. kids use it b/c its legal. the media says its like pot. not an adicting plant! a couple hand fulls and their down with salvia, nasty and unpleasant.

 

True, it tastes a bit yicky, ok for a couple of tokes, but holding it in your lungs is horrid!!

 

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Two possibilities here. One you got adulterated grass. Have to be careful and I don't know how you do that, 'cause unless you grew the beautiful plant on your own you are buying it from a source unknown. It could have been adulterated with PCP or any other drug to "enhance" it.

Or, you could have had a perception opened in you that will never close. You may always see existence differently because of this opened door that you are now looking out. (why do you think the straights have made a god-created plant illegal?)

 

and if u do get high its a freakin nightmare


dont do salvia


back to thre kid whos been high 5 weeks
your teachers tell u drugs are bad pot will ruin your entire life u smoke it then for weeks u imagine strange sensations persisting
its impodssible that smokinjg a few times affected u 5 weeks
your mind though can trick u into believing it has
placebo effect
u think it may happen so u imagine it has

thats how a kid can smoke oregeno and think hes high forever

drink a glass of sugar water but believe with all your might that it will return u to normal.. and it will

hell convinvcce yourself its an overdose of heroin and you'll show symptoms of od'in on heroin...





stop dwelling on the weird feeling and u will stop feeling weird

 

Welcome to the forums =)
I'll do my best to tell you what I know about any/every drug I've done so far. But by all means use Erowid and Lycaeum religiously when getting into a new drug.

You ask for fun drugs and safe drugs, no drug is completely fun or completely safe all the time. So I'll just go ahead and give you the good, the bad, and the ugly all together.

Marijuana - I'd try this one first. It was my first drug, anyway. When it comes to drugs, it's best not to really expect anything. A lot of people will tell you it feels great and etc etc, but for me I think a lot "heavier," and my thoughts sort of loop around and around, if that makes any sense. I'm less comfortable around other people, and I like to just chill and relax or listen to music or something like that. The first couple times you take it (the very first one or two times you might not feel anything at all) it's probably going to be A LOT stronger than it becomes a little later on down the road if you use it fairly often. It might be a little overwhelming. Just try to chill and relax and not freak out about anything. Watch TV or masturbate or something, these things become way more fun than they ever were before. I've only ever smoked it so I can't tell you how it's like baked in something. Finally, it probably will impair your judgement, but not in the way alcohol will. It probably won't IMPROVE anything other than your sensitivity to touch or taste or humor.

LSD - Someone on this forum said, "when it comes to acid, until you know, you just don't know." Try not to take what other people tell you about it so seriously. You can't describe the experience in words, nor would I want to to a certain extent. It's an incredibly personal experience. If you do decide to take this, I would recommend taking it with someone who already has taken it for your first time. I'm very very glad I did, because it can be pretty terrifying or difficult if you don't know what is happening to you. Just be prepared for the possibility that you will never look at the human mind, the world, the universe, yourself, or your spirituality in the same way ever again.

Mushrooms - I don't have a very fair or balanced opinion about mushrooms because I only did them once and I had a pretty bad trip. Which goes to show you that no matter what drug you take there's always a chance of a bad trip. When I did them, my feelings and emotions were 'amplified,' and at first everything seemed very silly, then I fell into a deep love with everything, and eventually through the night those feelings became dark and morbid and hellish.

DXM/Cough Syrup - A few months ago, this was my favorite drug ever. Some people love it and some people hate it. Some people think it's alright but it's not worth drinking or eating all that nasty cough medicine. Even the little gel capsules are sickening after you've done them a few times in the past. I can't stomach them any more, so I've stopped. The experience is very 'druggy.' Light doses tend to be fun and 'high,' while moderate or heavy doses fuck you up beyond belief. It can be really enjoyable not be able to function like a human being, this is honestly the drug I would recommend to you most. With DXM, it seems like you 'go into' your own mind and so it can be hard to interact with your outside environment. The best way I can describe the experience is, your mind moves so slow that your perceptions have to sort of skip like a broken record to keep up (or down) with it. Different brands of cough syrup have different ingredients, and many have potentially harmful ones, or no DXM at all. It is A MUST that you research the brands and ingredients and dosage level before you take this. Be prepared to puke.

Cocaine - Everything is a party, your mind is speeding in an amazing way, and you feel awesome. Probably one of the greatest feelings you will ever know. If you have more, you will do more. So if you decide to take this, don't go overboard. Coke can be dangerous (lol).

Exctasy - Can be a lot like Cocaine in a couple different ways. It feels great, you feel great, everything is pretty sexy (which is a big difference from coke. On Ex you can be good to go like a billion times in a row with a short amount of down time, on coke I find it's hard to even get it up because I'm thinking about so much shit so fast), you probably just want to dance. It's probably a good idea to be full of energy, maybe take some vitamins or something, drink a lot of water, etc, so you don't get worn out too quickly. Ex isn't very fun for me when that happens. Don't take my word alone for any of this (or I would go farther to say don't take anyone's word alone for anything, ESPECIALLY when it comes to drugs) because I've only done it once.

Salvia - This is some foul tasting shit. It's hard to smoke. The experiences aren't supposed to be positive or fun, they are confusing, fast, and sort of 'brutal,' in a way. The drug does shit to you, not the other way around. I've only done it once, and after about five seconds I had this overwhelming feeling that some other sort of being was standing right there next to me. Then I twisted to my side in a sort of spasm, as if the being punched me or something, and then it was over. It was weird, hella confusing, but still very interesting none the less.

Finally, you asked about DMT, well I've never had the opportunity to take this, but my experiences with LSD have given me something to compare the experience to based on what other people have told me about it, and all I can say is, this is not something that you'd probably want to take without at a few different Trips under your belt.

Hope that was of some help. Good luck and have a BLAST. Remember not to take anything to seriously, and to stay on top of your drug use. Don't let it control you. Feel free to AIM me about anything, and I'm sure most other people here would be just as enthusiastic to help you out on your journeys into your mind. Peace!

 

what ever you plan on trying, do it in small steps, I still can remember those cats back a few years, whom ate like shit loads of acid, only to never return being sane. be careful. stay on the organcho road!

 

Don't listen to anything anyone tells you when they say 'that's just impossible, you're just freaking yourself out about nothing'. Unfortunately, I can't be much more help than that, but I definitely believe you. Unless it was laced with something, it's probably not a physical thing. But when you do any kind of new psychoactive drug, you're using your mind in a way that is new to you, and opening doors that previous to you using the drug have always been closed.

 

with all due respect u tried exracy once as a 1 time thing its ok as a 5 time thing over years its ok but extacy is very dangerouse

you mention coke too coke is just bad news it doesnt feel all that good but it does make u want more and more thats all the feeling ids actualy very unpleasant


ill say it again u should stick to just weed.. and maybe maybe maybe someday lsd shrooms ot peyote
caugh syrup[ is dangerouse period pluds is addictive as hell
dxm dmt are way way too fucked up to even mention to a drug newbie

ive donre a ton of shit alotta shit i shoulda never done i will never touch anything buit weed ever again

aikm me as well if u want


oi wont repeat horror stories of extacy abuse here just rest assured the effects can be devestating

 

I'm not the OP's mama, and he seems like a smart enough guy to know what he does and does not want to do. I'm giving him as much information as I can provide, and I feel that not doing so would be wrong. I'm not telling him to do any of these drugs. I'm AM telling him how I feel about these drugs personally, which I believe is more helpful than someone telling him what he doesn't want to do.

In any case, who are you to say that my experience with coke was not a good one?

 

ok well if you read the op instead of just the word drug youd know 1st of all tyhe op is a girl not a guy second she spends tikme thinking of creative ways to kill hertself if she has a bad trip
have some fucking responcibility and only suggest ones that would possibly help her and none at all that will only hurt her

shes aslking for guidance and you give her a long list of ways to best fuck up

 

It definatly was not laced with anything. And each time I smoked it was a different batch and I got the same exact effects.

It usually starts with me thinking about how the brain/mind work, and these leads to some fucked up sensations in my brain that stick with me when Im high and stay with me forever I suppose.

Im trying really hard to fight it off now. Sometimes it's so overbearing, and sometimes I get thoughts so powerful that I go weak in the knees and have to sit down. I have good days and I have bad days. Whatever this door is that I opened, I wish it closed.

I have not figured out how to make any of these new feelings useful in any way.

 

Well, I did miss the fact that OP is a girl, but that really isn't that big of a deal (sorry vaginal, won't happen again although the name should have made it a little more obvious). Anyway, she said she was going to kill herself if she got CAUGHT doing drugs, which was probably a joke, although when it comes to suicide it's probably not a good idea to ever come to the conclusion that it was just a joke...... Maybe you just thought of what you WANTED to hear, seeing as you obviously have some demons in your past when it comes to certain drugs or bad trips. Regardless, this argument will get very petty very fast.

I'm not telling her to do cocaine. I think it's irresponsible to tell someone that ANY drug will help you do anything as a matter of fact. Not even pot. She wanted information and I'm here to give what I can. I don't understand why if someone asks for information you feel that people should only tell her about the ones you feel are good. I think it is certainly fair to say some people will gain much more positive insight and understanding using exstacy or dxm than they will using marijuana. Others have a better time with mj. Obviously you are one of those people. But I think it is important to clarify that I am not PUSHING anything on her except what I feel is the most honest information I can provide her. And before any of that I recommended Erowid and Lycaeum.

I don't think that a pessimistic attitude like yours is EVER the answer when it comes to helping someone get into drugs.