Doing LSD for first time very soon. A few questions.

Well, I don't really want to do a full hit because of a few reasons. For one, no one's going to be with me in case I were to do something extremely stupid that could get myself killed. Also, I tend to think of the worst things possible when I shouldn't so I'm probably more likely to have a bad trip. My friend, who has done all kinds of drugs, even told me not to do LSD. Because I've only smoked weed a few times and he thinks I won't be able to handle LSD or something. I would probably keep smoking weed but it doesn't really effect me at all. And yes, I've smoked all kinds of good stuff. It only makes me tired and hungry. Anyways, I've decided on not doing a full hit of LSD. I might do just half or 1/4 of a hit. Maybe even less than that. I don't want to trip hard at all. I want to experience just small visual effects.. for now, that is, since it's my first time. I was wondering a few things. How much LSD would give me minimum effects? Like only bright colors, moving walls, and.. yeah. And what would the very minimum effects even be? Also, what would the effects of me doing half of a hit, 1/4 of a hit, and a tiny bit of a hit be? Aghh, I'm afraid I forgot something. But, if so, I'll just go back and edit this. Oh and if it matters: I'm 15 yrs old, 120 pounds, and 5ft 11in tall.

Edit: I just realized there is a thread for asking questions about doing LSD for the first time. I might just end up deleting this and posting it to that thread. Sorry about that, guys.

Another edit: On a side note, does anyone know anything about 2-Bromo-LSD?

 

The problem is that most of the effects you're looking for are effects that require a decent dose. On a very low dose you'll experience a pleasant high, sort of tingly feeling. You'll have new and interesting thoughts that are different from your normal thought patterns.

If you want a real LSD experience, 1/2 of a hit will very likely not be enough. A 1/4 hit would likely be unnoticeable at all. This is all based on that assumption that you don't have extremely potent acid.

Basically, what I'm saying is that most of the acid around these days is relatively weak, and 1 hit will usually not be overwhelming at all, and there's a decent chance that it will be very underwhelming. You're best bet, IMO is to go for the whole hit. You shouldn't be nervous about that dose.

My biggest piece of advice is to learn as much as you can about LSD before you try it, and go into the experience with an open mind and a great deal of acceptance. One of the most important aspects to having a good trip is accepting what's going on in your head and not fighting it.

A lot of people will say that you're too young to trip, but I don't subscribe to that kind of logic. It should be a matter of maturity, but I have no means to determine how mature you are at 15.

So I give you this advice that I give everyone who asks about their first time. Also, I think you should do a lot of thinking about whether or not you think you're ready for LSD. It's nothing to mess around with. The first time you trip acid is a magical thing, As long as you treat it with the respect it deserves and account for set and setting you should have a great time, and you should learn a lot.

That said, you need to be at peace with the decision to take it. One hit is a small dose, and nothing to be nervous about. If you do feel like you're too nervous then you should hold off until later in life. Be careful with LSD, but also have fun. It is a hell of an experience.

 

Wait till your 18

 

It's easy for me to say, since I'm already old, but maybe it would be good to wait until you are a little older. It's partly because, being older, 15 just seems so young to me, and 15yos look so innocent and young.

I will say that I am also the type who thinks of the worse possible things. Like when family or friends are out in the car, and I hear sirens, it always crosses my mind that it could be them. But, it doesn't make me have bad trips, and, if anything, while tripping it happens less.

 

You are 100% too young for this. Your friend is right, you are not ready for LSD. First of all, taking less than 1 hit is a good way to have almost no effects. And since you're certain you will have a bad trip on any more than that, it sounds like you are not mentally ready.

Going from pot to LSD at your age is like going from crawling like a baby to skydiving. You should grow some more, experience some 'in between' drugs like MDMA, learn to walk and run before you jump out of the lysergic airplane. My sister did LSD at 15 and she was wholly unprepared for the extent of the experience, and basically had to go home and hide under her covers for hours.

Another big thing you should know, is that visual effects are the last effects to arrive as you increase dose. The first effects that you will get as you increase dose will be exactly the ones you are trying to avoid; emotional, cognitive, etc. What I mean is that on 1/4 tab, you are going to have exactly 0 visual effects, while still being high enough on LSD to potentially ruin your day. To get visuals, you need at LEAST 1 hit, if not 2-3. That's just how it works, for most psychedelics.

LSD is not something you stay sober during the experience and get to see the sky rain kittens and crazy stuff like that. I thought it was like that too before I took it, but it is the most altered state of mind you can imagine. It is not like going to the movies in your head.

 

If i'm correctly assuming your hits are ~80µ, 1/4 of that would be 20µ which is just the threshold dose. If you don't feel you're ready, you probably aren't. Only you can be sure, no one else can make that call.

 

Take the acid man and take,at LEAST, a whole hit. You are not going to accidentally or intentionally kill yourself. What's the worst that can happen? A bad trip??? Even bad trips are learning experiences if you have a bad just access why and try to trip again more prepared. Do the acid you will be the most open minded 15 yo at your school and you will be one up on the pot heads

 

i say take a full hit. we can't gauge how 'ready' you are, but only you can decide that for yourself and once that paper hits your tongue is when you make a step.

just read a lot. there's TONS of information about LSD on the internet. you'll figure it out.

 

As said, I personally think you are too young to really dip into LSD, but if your going to do it either way, mine as well get the best information.

A half or 1/4 hit (as said before) will probably do next to nothing, I would take the full hit.

I've never had a horrible trip, but Weed always makes me giddy so, and it seems to help sustain/boost it.

Another thing, is the biggest misunderstanding with LSD (and shrooms in my opinion) is they you expect from movies/shows/media that your going to see a 3 headed dragon run out of the forest of blue flame. No, its an altered state of being.

If your really shady about it, i highly recommend trying Shrooms first, my honest opion is that Shrooms are a baby compared to LSD but it will get you a lot more prepared for what to expect then jumping into it.

 

What's the highest dose of shrooms you've done?

 

Ya, curious too. I wouldn't describe mushies as a baby compared to LSD. Just the opposite actually.

 

Usually around 4-6g's of Liberty Caps, i mean i just dont get nearly as much out of them as i've heard them to be. Everyone i talked to agreed.

 

That's very surprising. I've felt more out of control on an 1/8 of really good shrooms than I did even on 15 good hits of acid. I've never had a bad acid trip, or a bad shroom trip for that matter, but ive had a few shroom trips that had negative overtones for parts. I definitely feel more susceptible to a trip turning bad with shrooms than with acid. That's just me though.

 

dude if you eat 6 grams of shrooms you would be tripping nuts, your getting some bunk ass shit for real. ive eaten some 1/8ths that have made me trip so hard I had mini-blackouts. I saw phish one time after eating about that much and cant even remember the first set besides some crazy ass encounters with people. Acid is definitely easier on the mind, have to agree 100% with eatlysergicacid

 

Blackouts and amnesia as the criteria for how intense a drug is on the mind? Bacardi 151 has to be up there.

 

its nothing like an alcohol blackout...kinda like my brain was going too fast and it got overwhelmed, super intense trip..only happened on mushrooms, and im definitely not the only person who has had that happen

 

OP, come back in like 4 years.

You are waaaaay too young, as everyone has said. I'm sure you will resent me saying that, to which I say, TOO BAD, you can feel mature, I did, everyone your age does, but you will come a long way in the next few years.

And this is well proven by your assumptions and convictions about behavior on LSD, and the way you must work a dose up.

Starting with low doses and learning to "handle" them is very dangerous to the mind, and to want to do that shows altogether the wrong mindset to start with LSD, just yet. You will gain nothing by being able to "control" yourself on an almost visual dose-and you can freak out just as easily, if not much more easily. It's very strange to think you're in control and have very abnormal thought processes and such, and it's very easy to get into trouble or have a serious freak-out when you realize you ARE tripping at exactly the wrong time, when you had thought you'd been down for hours, and been "seeing" nothing.

You need to examine why you would want to take acid, what you will get from it, and how you will get it. It IS seeing pretty colours, but it's a lot more too, and it's a package deal, you can't just take less acid and have the colours. A first dose does not NEED to be intense enough for a breakthrough style trip, but with your mindset, it does, again, trying to suppress or limit a trip is a good way to develop serious mental issues.

Again, you're way too young. You're an age where growing up happens very fast, and is quite amazing to experience-you're about to start having a lot of fun with life, but you don't need, won't benefit from, and should not take, psychedelics at your age. If you get hold of some, store it in a cool, dark, airtight place for a few years.

But if you do decide to do it, you should know that that's a VERY small dose and if you have not taken LSD before you will not even feel it-and you might not even feel a full hit. I'd start with three. I wish I had.

And last, and most importantly, "fight the ocean and you will drown, brother". DO. NOT. FIGHT. IT. And do not try to take an underwhelming dose. Remember to be calm and control your body, and remember that, if you get in a bad place, it's just a chemical in your brain and it will be okay-but also understand the nature of that chemical, and of your brain-you will not be insane ("legally" or otherwise), don't do anything stupid or rash or be scared if you don't think normally, this is not a drug that makes you think that you can fly or see godzilla, it's a drug that makes you question everything and think in new ways. There is no bad trip, just a trip you're not ready to take yet.

 

Only once have I ever felt shrooms on par with LSD, if I haven't been given great as stuff as you guys, shame, because that would have been great.

 

Have you ever had cubes? The only thing I can guess is Liberty Caps on average have less psilocin. I've never had those myself so I can't speak from experience.
P. semilanceata = liberty caps
P. cubensis = cubes

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info4.shtml

"On par" is a vague comparison but in terms of intensity of psychedelia, I have found 1/8 to 4g range of cubes to be more mind shattering than 300-400ug of lucy.

 

I respond more like Legocy. I find LSD more rapidly paced, distorting and amplfying of my thoughts and perceptions and just overall more analytical compared to shrooms, with a longer duration. I find shrooms heavier much of the time in the sense that I don't usually like to move around as much and stuff but usually I can sink into shroom trips more comfortably.