does it REALLY bother you that our (USA) image has been ruined?

it doesn't really bother me at all. i mean, honestly, i can't think of a single country i hold in particularly high regard. the USA not being some golden heaven in the eyes of the world doesn't bug me at all. now we can go about living and doing without the automatic assumption that we're incapable of doing wrong and that we're supposed to take care of everyone else's troubles.

what do you think? i keep hearing about how our "image" has been ruined and we'll never get our reputation back. who cares? really? it just means we'll have to make really good decisions in the future and be more careful. that's good, right?

 

Yeah, the reputation isn't too relevant.

That is, unless you go abroad... you might face some good ol' hate being an American out there... not too likely though.

It's just sad to see you gringos ignoring what the world thinks of you... if a whole lotta people are telling you that you are doing something wrong, then maybe you are...

Anyhow...

Empires crumble. This one will go down in flames.

 

it's not ignoring the reputation, it's accepting that it's at a more realistic level. we're not so high and mighty anymore. we can't be quite so uppity about how perfect and awesome we are. we've been taken down a notch. jeez. i really like that.

an no one really goes down in flames anymore.

 

Oh no, flames... revelation style.

Anyhow... it's not like the people have ever had any control over the US' image to begin with. I doubt that most people here even think about their country's image.

 

it's just a bit sad if foreigners look at our president
and wonder just how in the hell we could elect such a fucking tard.

i don't like people assuming i'm that stupid, is all.

 

On the bright side, you make Canada look good!

 

Should that be Canada's new slogan...

 

Twice.

 

I dont think people actully think you ( and every other American ) are stupid.
We just think Americans are ignorant. Not so much ignorant actually, but very uninterested in what goes on in the rest of the world. If it doesnt concern you, you dont really care.

 

Here's our new slogan

CANADA: At least we aren't American....

 

I am not sure if we're talking about the US government here, but if we are, well you are right, your reputation is down the toilet in many parts of the world.
On the other hand if we are talking about the US in general, i'll have to agree with Piaf

 

well, i don't mind europeans thinking we're ignorant of the goings on in europe. to be honest, i know as much about what's going on in our states as they know what's going on in europe. i figure europe is just a USA with more languages.

 

Willfully ignorant, really. The information is out there but too many of us allow the media to direct us to be interested in things that aren't important. Steroids in sports and paying for high class prostitutes don't really measure up to committing war crimes and lying to the U.N. and both houses of congress in order to use the U.S. military on behalf of private interest (Big Oil) but it's sure working to nicely distract. I'm sure that the George Bush administration owes Elliot Spitzer a debt of gratitude.

 

People in Europe are much more socially aware.

Piaf is right, people just view Americans as apathetic to the world...

...and that apathy is disgusting. Honestly, repulsively disgusting.

 

i get really annoyed at the stubbornly loyal patriotic sorts. for pete's sake, people!

 

hum.. golden heaven? I daresay it's been atleast decades since the US was considered such a paradise. and I think the assumption that you were incapable of doing wrong and that you were ever supposed to take care of anyone else's troubles, let alone everyone else's troubles, was only made by Americans themselves.

it would be good if your leaders started making some carefully thought-out decisions from now on, though. maybe that would stop the recent decline in respect and good will from the rest of the world.

 

it really is, draft dodging israeli guy.

 

that's my point! i love it. we're not gonna get away with bullshit ever again, and people seeing our image in the toilet is gonna stop them from ignoring bad decisions. i'm referring to all the Rah Rah Patriot people. well, not all of them are gonna absorb the information. stupid people are everywhere, but still, there's a lot of people who WOULD care but just haven't seen the need to. i think it's great.

 

oh, and jimmy, people within the USA were still considering it a golden heaven compared to anywhere else in the world. i wasn't referring to how it's viewed elsewhere.

 

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