Does God Exist?

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by PhishheadDeadhead, Dec 23, 2008.

  1. PhishheadDeadhead

    PhishheadDeadhead Senior Member

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    simple as that.

    answer, then we discuss...
     
  2. weedwhacker

    weedwhacker TFM Bro!

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    I am an atheist, in that i am not 100% sure god doesn't exist, just like how im not 100% sure fairies or unicorns don't exist. but im 99.99% sure he doesn't exist.
     
  3. grimjivey

    grimjivey Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I say, as far as I can figure out, there probably isn't a God. However I'd never try to change anyones mind. To each their own.
     
  4. mustangman2424

    mustangman2424 Member

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    It is impossible to say that God doesn't exist because you can't prove it. I don't believe in any God, and I do not believe there is one, but I can't prove it so it's just an opinion.

    I am happy there is religion though because, unfortunately, people sometimes need a reason to lead a good and honest life.

    I believe that when I die, nothing will happen to me or my "soul". I will cease to exist. I will not be aware that I am dead, nor will I have any thoughts at all. The day I die will be exactly like the day before I was conceived.....nothing. It's sad to think about, and I wish that I could believe in heaven, but it's just not realistic.
     
  5. PhishheadDeadhead

    PhishheadDeadhead Senior Member

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    i feel the same way and agree with your post.
    at this point im 100% sure there isn't a god, and part of me has a problem with how people follow this when you can really disprove it all if you learn enough.
    but i agree with your thing about religion. it does some give people incentive to behave and helped my brother get off drugs. i mean his coke, meth, alcohol addictions and more so i wouldn't try and take that from someone.
     
  6. weedwhacker

    weedwhacker TFM Bro!

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    exactly right. it is impossible to disprove a negative. it is impossible for me to prove that there are no elves living in my shoes, simply because i could say "well the elves are invisible and are in spirit form", just like how god is made out to be, making it impossible to disprove. i could say it's very very very likely that there are no elves in my shoes, however
     
  7. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    God exist, and psychedelics just made me more sure of that
     
  8. weedwhacker

    weedwhacker TFM Bro!

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    huh, i found psychedelics made me more sure god doesn't exist

    edit: however, i don't take psychedelics so seriously that i think they can actually somehow unveil the real truth. i mean think about what they are, they cause the human brain to act and perceive things differently, but it's all in your head. that's not to say you can have some stunning and very truthful realizations on them, but im very sure that the religious experiences people report while on shrooms or LSD are just in their head
     
  9. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    YOU'RE NOT DOING THEM RIGHT THEN GOD DAMNIT!







    hahaha, nah j/k
     
  10. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    Most likely no.
     
  11. wetsocks

    wetsocks there's no one driving

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    The religious experiences that people report while not on drugs are just in their heads too.
    Our everyday sober life is just a natural drug trip, different chemical combinations give us our thoughts and perceptions. So everything you know, feel, think about, etc. is flawed in that it is brought about simply by chemical compounds. An LSD realization is just as valid as a sober minded one in that they are both equally flawed.
    What I'm getting at is that there cannot possibly be a god because the dude/dudes that thought of that concept is wrong, regardless of what he was or wasn't on at the time.
     
  12. PsychadellicSinatra

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    I was raised catholic & I've kind of gone against my beliefs b/c I feel there's a God as in a creator, but after that he just kind of sat back and watched shit happen. I think that when I die it's just...nothing. Like someone said before, it'll be how it was before I was born. But just b/c I don't believe in heaven doesn't mean I'm not going to do good things.
     
  13. Mother's Love

    Mother's Love Generalist

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    i think your poll is skewed toward people who only know of "God"
    I believe that ALL religious paths lead to the same place.
    I believe in a creative force, that initiated the atom smashing.
    I believe that if there is an ultimate force, it is too much for us mere (and incredibly fallible) humans to comprehend. to me the ultimate force is a feeling, when i think of my place in this house, city, state, country, continent, planet, solar system, galaxy, univese, and beyond. its a small and unpleasant feeling. how tiny we truly are. and then add into the "zooming out" picture that we are spinning with a wobble, out solar system spins on an axis, the galaxy is churning through space and its an insane feeling.

    i figure if there is a creative force, and it cares at all about us measly humans, then it wouldn't prefer us to be daunted and uncomfortable with it. who wants an awkward silence? i am one with it, not separate from it. most people will never accept that.
    when i pray, i pray to equal forces, a god and godess with no names, because (i believe) all gods are one God, and all goddesses one Goddess. i think that gods and goddesses make it easier for humans to associate with the creative force, because it is difficult to accept your place in the universe, its much easier to worship a lesser force. i figure that my Lord and Lady will convey the message to the creative force. if the creative force cares, of course.

    when i was in high school i decided that i would only believe what i felt was true and right. i started with love, and nothing has been added. there are so many loves, old love, new love. a mothers love for her children. a mothers new love for a gone child. a love born in pain, in laughter, in joy. even 'bad' kinds of love cannot be faulted for the feeling, only for the execution. a serial killer may go to jail, but you cant stop the love of killing, you can only prevent the act of killing.
    every feeling is valid, and love is unstoppable. if everyone would learn what love really is then the world would be a fantastic place. im sleepy and my conciousness is deteriorating. for tonight i leave you with a poem out of an old book of mine. anonymous, so far as i know. and English in origin.

    This is the Key
    This is the Key of the Kingdom
    In that Kingdom is a city;
    In that city is a town;
    In that town there is a street;
    In that street there winds a lane;
    In that lane there is a yard;
    In that yard there is a house;
    In that house there waits a room;
    In that room an empty bed;
    And on that bed a basket–
    A basket of sweet flowers
    Of flowers, of flowers;
    A basket of sweet flowers.
    Flowers in a Basket;
    Basket on the bed;
    Bed in the chamber;
    Chamber in the house;
    House in the weedy yard;
    Yard in the winding lane;
    Lane in the broad street;
    Street in the high town;
    Town in the city;
    City in the Kingdom–
    This is the Key to the Kingdom.
    Of the Kingdom this is the Key.
     
  14. puffed up in my ford

    puffed up in my ford Senior Member

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    to me there is no god and i dont want to explain it :(
     
  15. makesmomcry420

    makesmomcry420 shlimazl

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    im open to the possibility that god exists. its too easy to say that he doesnt, its too easy to say that when you die its over. but you have to understand that i was brought up in a semi fanatical penticostal christian family, my father was and is an ordained minister. but he doesnt have a church right now.

    in all reality, i should be the most fucked up person in group therapy, but strangley enough im not.

    but i have experienced genuinely life shaking events when i was young. i saw some shit that was REAL. and im the most skeptical person you will ever meet. but back on topic, i think there is a god, just not an established or involved god. god just made us, and is just watching us go. like a kid and an ant farm.

    but again my mind isnt made up
     
  16. Nero_Designs

    Nero_Designs Inhaled Dreams

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    I am not sure if there is a divine being, i just think that all religion is bullshit.
     
  17. makesmomcry420

    makesmomcry420 shlimazl

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    in all honesty, im completely terrified of the afterlife. if i am judged, ill go to hell.

    even in hell will they bend their knee
     
  18. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    You can't call someone's belief system bullshit just because you don't agree
     
  19. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Ever been stuck in a 3 hour long thought loop on the existance of god while on a bunch of shrooms? I literally burned my brain writing down notes, making diagrams trying to figgure this out, like I literally just fell over onto the floor and started staring at this quasi lava lamp i have and drooling, I officially burned out my brain for about 20min lol
     
  20. Nero_Designs

    Nero_Designs Inhaled Dreams

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    Hence why I said I think


    And it's my oppinion anyway, this entire thread is oppinion.
     
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