Does Consciousness Determine Existence?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Thekarthika, Jul 15, 2011.

  1. Thekarthika

    Thekarthika Member

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    I would like to hear your views....
     
  2. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    Your consciousness is capable of determining what exists. Would a rock exist if nothing conscious perceived it? If you can answer that, you have your answer. I'm inclined to say yes, but the philosophical argument against goes: how can you be sure that when you turn your head and no longer observe the rock that it didn't disappear. How can you be sure when you turn back to observe it again that it is the same rock you observed previously.
     
  3. McLeodGanja

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    I think so
     
  4. Duck

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    No.
    Consciousness wouldn't exist without the gray matter that generates it.
     
  5. Thekarthika

    Thekarthika Member

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    This is not your own words, someone else has said this to me. Did you google this question and copy whatever you found? Get a mind of your own man.
     
  6. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    there nothing wrong with quoting someone
     
  7. Duck

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    There is if you don't bother to mention that you're quoting, or who you're quoting.

    It's called stealing; also known as plagiarism.
     
  8. TheTruthAndPeaceSeeker

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    If Peaceful Libra said what he was thinking and not copying and pasting it isn't plagiarism. Just because I share an idea with someone, I don't quote them for it and nobody else does. Image how clunky every single sentence and post would be.

    Back on topic, I do agree with the philosophical standpoint Peaceful Libra has.
     
  9. Duck

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    But he didn't say it; he typed it. Without quotation marks or reference.
    "As they say in.."
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    "I read a ____ by _____ where he said.."
    "In ____ it says.."
    "I heard ______ say.."
    Have you not heard any of these phrases used?

    Not to mention, typically in conversation, people use a slightly different tone when quoting something.

    In fact, a 16 year old poster did it properly earlier today on these here forums
     
  10. Freedom_Man

    Freedom_Man Senior Member

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    I wonder if consciousness is solely reliable on the brain. Who's to say the wall doesn't have a consciousness? If our brains are at base structured ions, then the puzzle of consciousness is at base these atom things ( i don't know much about it sorry if i don't know the specifics)

    so maybe the wall has an awareness of its own? or a rock? a point of view.
     
  11. willedwill

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    No, without causality there it is not possibility to say. The intermediate question is: does causality determine Existence?

    Immediately Consciousness would have to Cause the whole World to exist (viz. determination). But Hegel solved that one first by yielding: the Consciousness IS the Whole world. His views are more unorthodox about Causality itself.

    Am I getting trained from the Bush Era, or am I getting trained form the Bush Era?:2thumbsup:
     
  12. Meliai

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    Everything is consciousness.
     
  13. heeh2

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    More specifically, consciousness is a circumstance of everything.
     
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