Do We Really Want to Decriminalize Marijuana?

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by thetrippyhippy, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. thetrippyhippy

    thetrippyhippy Member

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    As I sit here toking on my bowl, Im wondering about the future of marijuana, I mean sure it would be great if it was legal but do we really want it to become legal, think about it. If marijuana became legal respect for the plant would be ripped apart, knowing the capitalistic behavior of the American market, it would now become a money oppurtunity, coporations would start selling it and growing it with chemicals and unfair labor instead of the real care non-corporate growers really have. Not only would the market disrespect it but generall people as well, since bud is now a "product" people just smoke it for the high, completley forgetting that it is nature and that it is unique in its greatness. So, do you think im really high or that this may actaully take place in the somewhat near future



    Man this is some good weed

    ...May be never again said
     
  2. MOZMAN

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    I think it is only a matter of time now before its legalised. Since marijuana was declassified froma Class B to Class C in the UK, acording to gouvernment research less people are now smoking so theyre gonna liuke that arnt they? it would be best if it was legal to have it on your person and grow it in your home.If it was made a commercial product would we get better green? who knows but capitalists making money out of weed is sacralidge. it goes against everything pot stands for!
     
  3. JohnnyATL

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    most people already smoke it just to get high. and IF it bacame legal is would see it working the same as in holland or somethin
     
  4. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    I think your absolutely right. BUT i would still want it decriminalized because it benefits me, ill treat it right, i cant control what others do.
     
  5. canibus420

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    /\ yeah that is true, as much as it would cause problems, it would totally benefit us tho also, but if the government legalised it, i bet the prices would go wayyyyyyyyy up, because of the benefit of having marijuana right there to buy is pretty convenient. I just hate the idea of the government running marijuana selling if it was legalised.
     
  6. thetrippyhippy

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    i dont trust the government as it is, why should I trust them with my bud
     
  7. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    Actually i believe the prices would be very cheap. Or else the dealers would still be in buisness or you could grow your own if they try jacking up the prices. I think theyd want to sell it cheap, i mean it grows, we have an unlimited supply, they cant make it expensive.
     
  8. thetrippyhippy

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    although tobacco is grown by many yet over years tobacco prices have soared
     
  9. jusdino4it

    jusdino4it DR. Lifetime Supporter

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    If it became flat out legal, then im sure there would be all kinds of crap spraid all over our weed, and that would suck. but if it is just decriminalized, it would just be like it is in Canada. It would still be sold the same way, but with less consicunces.
     
  10. canibus420

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    /\ hopefully it is that way
     
  11. thetrippyhippy

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    canada actually cares, basically why they're socialists
     
  12. nesta

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    there isn't tremendous respect for it as it is. most stoners i know just want to get fucked up. the few that respect it are people who use it medically, those who believe its a religious sacrament (and these people are few and far between - at least the sincere ones!), and those of us who believe its not a spiritual or religious sacrament, but that it can produces shifts in consciousness and the ways in which we view ourselves and society and other issues in a way that can be potentially beneficial for society as a whole - probably the rarest of the three groups. other than that, most people seem to view it either as simply a drug to get fucked up with, or view it as a wicked vice that should be done away with. another way of looking at it is by looking at the beer industry: beer is an ancient, traditional beverage which has been revered by many cultures and been meticulously brewed with the utmost care and respect. these days, with the exception of expensive microbrewers and craft brewers, this is no longer the case, it is mass produced pisswater that a bunch of folks just drink so they can get fucked up. but there is a thriving homebrewing movement, in which true beer lovers seek to learn about their beverage of choice and make it with the most care they can, so that they can consume the best beer available. countless more people spend tons of money on good beer, just out of love of the brew and desire for high quality and craftsmanship.

    it already is a money opportunity. the black market drug trade is pretty much the ONLY place in american society in which supply and demand really is the determining factor of price, with no other influences. its a multi billion dollar industry, even if its largely hidden, and its particularly attractive for prospective merchants because of the very high price, high demand, and the currently complete lack of taxation and regulation. people already grow with too many chemical fertilizers and pesticides, hydroponics, etc. the majority of good pot, unfortunately, is NOT organic outdoor cannabis. and as for lower grade imported marijuana, its often grown by impoverished farmers who receive next to nothing for the product - its people farther down the chain that make the most money off of it. on the other hand, if it were legal people could grow it in their backyards and greenhouses, free of pesticides or fertilizers, and while companies WOULD sell marijuana commercially, much like coffee, tea, and sugar there would likely have a demand for certified organic and certified fair trade cannabis. companies would seek to meet these demands in order to detract people from growing their own, appealing to sloth.

    i think you're really high, but i also think your ideas are based in sound reason, i just happen to disagree to a certain extent for the reasons i listed

    another common argument against legalization brought up by smokers is that it would be bad because quality would go down and the government would tax the hell out of it. this is also based in sound reason, but an unfounded fear. sure, the government would tax marijuana sold in stores, but just like they tax cigarrettes and beer it would only be likely to apply when you're buying the finished product. if you go in the liquor store and buy a pack of joints or a blunt, you'll be taxed. quite possibly if you just buy a bag of buds, you'd be taxed as well. but its a plant and thousands of americans already grow there own. homegrown cannabis -could not be taxed- and even if you needed a permit or license or something to grow your own, if it was small scale growing for personal use there would be no reason at all to make busts on illegal growers of a legal product. it would be perfectly easy to still get high quality untaxed bud by growing it yourself, just as you can roll your own cigarettes to avoid heavy taxes or make your own homebrew

    the only people that i truly think would be adversely effected by legalization of marijuana would be teens (an age limit would definitely be put in place, and it would no longer be so easy for highschoolers to get) and alcohol companies.
     
  13. thetrippyhippy

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    it would be no harder for teens to get marijuna, they have no problem getting alcohol underage why not weed
     
  14. nesta

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    oh sure, they CAN get it, but at least for me and most of the kids in my school, we could get pot in a half hour or less almost any day of the week, but to find someone willing to buy you alcohol, thats a different story.

    sure, if they try they could get it one way or another. there will just be more obstacles, it will be tougher.
     
  15. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    decrimilized and legal are 2 very different things
     
  16. canibus420

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    teens would just have somebody buy it for them, or they would grow their own, it is the EXACT same situation as alcohol, with alcohol being illegal for teens, but not for adults. Adults buy teens alcohol by just buying it for them, same thing would go for marijuana, an adult would just go in the store with the teens money, buy them the bud, come out, give them the bud. lol
     
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