do psychedellics actually burn you out?

The more I think about this, the more I look into this, I cannot find a single reason to believe psychedelics burn you out. Yes there are many burnouts who had psychedelics at some point. But I have yet to run into a burnout that was a psychedellic-only type of person.

I'm thinking the thing that causes burnout is stimulants primarily, but then alcohol and opiates. These deplete your will, these deplete your natural energy. Whereas, just psychedelics don't deplete anything. They seem to reinvigorate you.

I'm thinking this whole 'psychedelics burn you out' thing is just something repeated by so many people, without ever looking into it, that it just became 'common sense' with no real sustinence behind it.

The apparent burnout hippies I do not think burned out from LSD, they burned out from the amphetamines. Again, do you know any old psychedellic-only types? Of the ones I have personally met, they most certainly are not burnouts. They are very active and very with the current situation on earth. I have yet to run into a psychedellic-only type that is burned out, they are quite the opposite.

The substance I've seen the most real burnouts from is alcohol.

And I should note, I don't think burnout means weird or odd. Burned out means literally as the word implies, your just out of energy. You can't comprehend new, you can't function here anymore. The cogs of the brain are no longer turning or they are missing teeth. I understand that LSD might cause a person to develop a cog that only he thinks exists, but his cogs are still going. Just because someone has devoted their life to something you do not understand does mean they burned out.

 

actually i`ve been burnt out on them. they get u to a point where u don`t even get high on them anymore.

 

but are you a burnout? When I say burnout I'm meaning someone who has lost some serious necessary components of the psyche. Or can't even sustain themselves in a respectful manner. This is different from needing a long break and working on other aspects of life for a bit of time.


also, perhaps I should refine my point a little more to say mushrooms and LSD is mainly what I refer to when I say psychedellics. I don't doubt going down the list of research chemicals would burn someone out.

 

i could be a acid casualty but i really doubt, i believe iam the person who needs a break to rethink everything....and no i ve never meet a burntout from psychedelics, from weed hell yes

 

people can "burn out" with out drugs...remember, it's all in the mind

 

i've always assumed that abusing psychedelics can get you more disconnected than burnt out, if anything

 

while I think there can be negative long term effects of psychedelics.. it is true that there is no information available that would actually suggest this.. almost all 'burnouts' took or take a range of other drugs primarily including alcohol, marijuana, amphetamines, opiates, etc

 

yes, this is why i`m refocusing.

 

there is nothing whatsoever mystical about them. the mystical is what we already have in us. all the drugs do is let us realize that. & some of us haven`t needed them for that. see my apology thread. we have developed into a ridiculous dependency on drugs just because some people get "good" out of them, doesn`t mean we all do or should. maybe the "good" they get is better than what they had, & yes that can be good i guess.

 

Well what is a burn out besides somebody who is socially withdrawn and perhaps unmotivated and exhausted? It is purely the users responsibility to watch over their mental and physical well being.

We can't say psychedelics are directly responsible for burning somebody out, there are many factors that are involved, though psychedelics can definitely contribute. But, from what I've seen, when tripping in groups and knowing others who got into it over a long period of time, it could be as damaging as it was beneficial for some of them, .... definitely a potential for some serious burning out...

 

well it does take a couple of days to get over lsd for one thing

 

"get over" what part of lsd? the chemical effects? sure

the life changes, if you're lucky, you'll never "get over"

 

ill never get over the life changeing effects i still cant believe that im not still in my trip today sometimes i think im still tripping thats how much of an effect lsd had on me and im amazed by it

 

ya, you can't really speak about LSD in a past tense scenario

 

the thing about it being all inside of us. I agree with that when it comes to LSD. But I can't agree with that when it comes to mushrooms and cactus. The mushroom and cactus have in them a spirit, and you can only converse with it by consuming the plant matter.

You can get your brain as wide open through just sober meditation, you can get as deep into the thing through just sober meditation as you could from mushrooms. But when you get there, it will be devoid of the spirit mushroom. I do not go to mushrooms for simple conciousness expansion, I go to the mushroom to get information specifically from the mushroom.

 

the only really acid burnouts seem to be when acid is taken a lot along with marijuana. if you burn out on weed easily the acid can intensify that, your mind would get no rest, and it would amplify the typical stoner burnout. i actually started to feel burnout and confused about reality when i was doing acid a lot. and that was only like a few times a week. some people try to do it everyday.

 

i dont think that psychadelics actually burn you out in the way that you mean.

they can however burn you out in a different way.

taking psychadelics essentially increases the energy in your psyche and consciousness. sometimes this energy can become alot, and well it isn't really reversable. psychadelics permenantly open doorways to more energy for your conscious/psyche. when someone isnt prepared to handle all this energy it can get really out of control. it's like instead of channeling the energy forward like we all do all their energy just kind of implodes inward on itself and gets all tangled up. its easy to channel the energy forward for most people because they dont have a whole lot, but someone who has taken alot of psychedelics will have alot more energy than most people.

so in this way someone can become burnt out on psychedlics.

 

there ya go. i think using crystals or alpha wave monitors is much better than chemicals. & there`s a lil thing called flashbacks which can happen @ any time. & yes ry, organics do have spirit. actually "everything" does have spirit. it`s just that some "spirit" is more "reasonable" if you. when i said nothing mystical, i mean that we (if we want), can be more so,(mystical). some of us allow weaker sprit to "control" us, if you will. & then there`s the danger of being egotistical too. so one must strive for balance, i n some situations.

 

id like to think it all mind over matter man, you human brain is so powerful, i think pple just let themselves slide into being a burnout, theres times where ive been burnout and then like a month later im not as much as a burnout...i dunno mind over matter i think =)

 

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