did people change in the last 20 years?

i grew up around my grungey hippie brother and his friends and grew up being taught to accept everyone and while i myself am straight christian and nearly rich i have a tendency to try and be friends with the weirder people because of their more individual qualitys... but as i got older i started noticing everyone hates on everyone else for being individuals D: WHAT HAPPENED!?!?! has the world allways been this way? since when are the nerdier/preppier kids more dominent compared to the down-to-earth/stoner kids D: i consider myself in between the two because i get along with both sides but what happened to my race? the people who can fart and make a joke about it and be accepted for being an individual did it die with emo and scene kids? is counter-culture dead? WHAT THE HELL!!!!! D;

 

What I notice is an air of "entitlement". That's the biggest problem I see.

 

I'm so sorry for you dude

 

what do u mean?

 

seems like people-in general-are a lot meaner.

 

Cell phones and consumer culture happened.

It's made it much easier to associate the things you consume, that define you, with being intolerant assholes.

 

From Wikipedia (pick your option)
Entitlement may also refer to the idea of an entitlement society, in which everyone receives the same or similar rewards, regardless of education, effort, and willingness to take risk.


Entitlement is a human condition

It is ageless

OP-just accept that not everyone will think like you-you cannot change them, just yourself

 

The original hippies got away with what they did because the square culture didn't know what hit them. Then the squares learned to fight back. They are not going to stop fighting back now. They own the media; they own the educators; they own the economy; they own the politicians.

Hippie culture survives underground, but you have to go looking for it.

 

No people have not changed for centuries. It's their surroundings that keep changing, technology, society, economy, etc... Of course this has an impact on us but we still behave as diverse as we used to.

By the way, hippie culture seems succesfully assimilated by society to me. But the (sub)culture is just an extra I guess and you can still conform to it right

 

+1. bottom line, folks just want to get by-eat , sleep, fed, stay warm-the sex drugs and rock n roll is extra

 

The biggest difference is the current obsession with feeding one's inflating ego and co-currently belittling other people in order to feed that ego. People spend most of their energy trying to "out-do" their neighbor, and in doing so, they end up hating everyone, and, yes, eventually hating themselves.

 

This phenomena is quite interesting in regards to nerds. I really don't take this 'look at them in high school but see where they are now" sympathetic type view to them like many do. It probably has a lot to do with technology booming but being 'nerdy' seems rather en vogue ( tv shows like Big Bang Theory, the plethora of comic book movies, tech conventions, etc) and many of them can be just as big of assholes as jocks and stoners have been portrayed.

Going solely by music, which usually speaks to me more so than anything I read or see on tv from particular eras... We had the emergence of gangster rap which was quite boastful and belittling of others and grunge which is pretty much without question the most self loathing music genre that has ever existed coming out 20 years ago.. Those qualities have certainly existed in the collective mindset for awhile.

In recent years I've seen more of a shift to a more feminine type egoism, boastful but sort of a more passive aggressive attitude, where maybe things might not be outright said to someone but there is more of a subtle grudge held. It's very possible there are discrepanicies based on where one lives at too.

 

you don't gotta hate on nobody for who they are. sounds like this brother is pretty tolerant

 

This is an interesting insight. And I think that the "20 year" mark is correct for this phenomena. And, obviously, excessive egoism has existed forever, or else I have doubts that such things as monarchies would have come into existence.

But what you say about the passive-aggressive combativeness is very insightful. Whereas, to use a stereotype, in the way the Mafia is portrayed, when people's egos were bruised, they confronted their offender and settled the thing (and then usually forgave and forgot), people now enjoy spending months and years "gossiping" about their so-called friends on outlets such as Facebook (which I find to be incredibly unsettling - all of my friends have it and I often get 'tense' whenever they open it up on their computers in my presence - I would likely be a very anxious man if I had Facebook).

It is as though my entire generation has never grown out of its mid-teen years. I think that this will be a big problem when it comes time for people born from 1980-now to be in positions of real power. I can only hope that a culture more empathogenic will emerge, although I am foolish enough to believe the natural human tendency towards self-centeredness will disappear.

One of the most difficult ordeals of my adult life (other than recovering from my mental illness) was coming to terms with my objective insignificance despite being told from a young age how "special" I was (just as EVERY kid born in the '80s was told) and how I could do "whatever I wanted". It hit a brick wall about three years ago and it took some very uncomfortable "ahah moments" to gain a more realistic viewpoint, however, I still struggle with it daily.

 

Technology. Driving us into the new age

This forum is a community, i'm sure in the future everyone will be tech-savy. Everyone will be a part of the global "internet" world. It's already happening

The internet has given us the freedom to classify things even more. Everything is being sub-divided and everyone is joining their own sub-group. We are building even more walls to keep us in and opposing anything outside of those walls.

 

I see the difference is people in the 1960s and 70s looked for wisdom from long ago sages, mysticism etc. whereas now they think, because of the technology boom, that we are smarter than people a 1000/1000s of years ago.
But we aren't smarter, we're just more dangerous. We are fooled into thinking technological evolution means human evolution.
Actually, people couldn't even make TV work to human benefit (although there was some effort in the 60s). And we obviously don't have the maturity to make the internet work for humanity.

 

Same kind of humans that looked for such wisdoms are still out there man. Lots of people thought technology and industrial advancement was the way to go in decennia past. Also in the glorious 60's. Nothing changed in people as a whole.

 

People have been consumed by technology in the last 20 years. People today are bombarded by massive amounts of information that simply was not available 25 years ago, instead of going to the library and cracking books anything you want to know is a click away. To me it seems that there is a lot less actual physical human interaction than there was 30 years ago. Although today there is a lot more communication going on there is less people going out and meeting real people face to face. Plus as was mentioned earlier we are seeing the results from the 80s and 90s child rearing concept that every child is special and the world will revolve around you. Now those kids have grown to realize they are not so special after all and the world isnt as nice as they were led to believe by their parents. I think this is probably were the sense of entitlement came from.

 

I think the kind of people that would be cracking books 25 years ago are still doing that today. Of course they are also all over the internet but to seriously study info mainly peeps that would not be cracking books anyway are looking for that kind of stuff on the internet.

You don't think this sense of entitlement was around before the 80's/90's?

 

Well I think that the entitlement thing probably started at the end of WW2, everyone felt entitled to a home and job after the war. Then the whole keeping up with the neighbors thing started in the 50s and has progressively gotten worst since then. So entitlement has been around for a long time although, because of pedestal parenting it has reached a historic high today. But as far as cracking books goes sure there are people who still do it but they are becoming rarer every day. I am just talking about having to motivate yourself to physically get out and study as opposed to never leaving your house and just clicking with a mouse. It would seem to me that the knowledge gained by working a little for it would be better absorbed, as opposed to clicking a mouse in a living room would.