describe your visual

simple topic - not so easily done.

describe the CEVs or OEVs or fractals you see when on a psychedelic.

on 2ce i've seen maybe things.

to the best of my ability, but doing them no justice, i will try to explain the CEVs i get while listening to music.

i've seen stories of motherhood/birth/rebirth. one time it was a fractal of a baby breastfeeding. and the breast broke open, out of which flowed endless more breasts.

i've seen human figures come out of "flames" which then morphed into (or where they the whole time) the profile of a woman's face

i've seen a spiraling "strawberry" where the seeds of it contained a whole nother strawberry. but i interpreted the seeds to represent planets or galaxies or maybe atoms.

also i've seen crazy intricate grids of lines, spheres, etc
all the colors i can imagine

that's the best i can do

your turn

 

I think its really cool that you see things of this world in your visuals. Like human faces and the baby thing. The shit I see is way to alien to identify it with human things like that. Maybe your are really creative?

 

well those are just some examples that i can put into words somewhat easily

a lot of it is complex shapes and patters that i really can't describe in an interesting way. that's where i said "intricate grids of lines, spheres, etc"

it's so damn hard to put into words as i'm sure you know
i made this for two main reasons. 1) i think it'd be really cool to read what other people describe and 2) i will look back on this in a few months/years and remember some of the crazy shit i saw

 

i see that i am seeing

 

shut up
no offense

you can't do it can you?

 

on 2c-i ive seen some really cool CEVs, it was like if i was traveling through nothingness and was seeing moving walls of intricate square patterns that had bent corners instead of 90 degree angles and all of this was in purples and blues. those are the coolest ive seen so far.

i havent done a high enough dose of 2ce yet but i want to. and also want to get some dpt once its back

 

^^^thanks for being the only one to "describe your visual"

 

Well shrooms and 2c-c for me, both have very similar, DISTINCT visuals. Everything (ESPECIALLY text, I dont know why) will have this organic, liquid look. On higher doses, that organic look will be much much more pronounced, combined with usual geometric patterning. However that does not even describe it at all, its one of the hardest things to describe about psychedelics (well not really, but still very hard to describe to someone whos never done them)

DMT and DPT I find give similar visuals, however much much more extreme and intricate. Completely breathtaking. It suprises me that the human brain is capable and creative enough to produce things like that. Just shows you that our ordinary consciousness is only a fraction of what is actually going on.

One question to you all, do you think there will ever be a day where humans will fully understand the mind? 200 years ago people would have thought telephones were literally magic, don't underestimate what we are actually capable of.

 

What do telephones have to do with the human mind?

 

i think he's just saying our species is always getting smarter
so maybe one day we will fully understand the mind
i don't think we will ever FULLY understand anything. or at least not much. hopefully we get closer though.

 

I think the best way to describe the majority of visuals i get is that everything I see is like a smooth running stop motion film, but its missing frames. Pictures tend to look more layered and have an almost third dimension about them. Holographic, moving, changing hue, often times allowing my mind to travel into the visual and get lost in the sea of thought and eye candy. Textured ceilings tend to affect my visual capabilities quite a bit, forming an intangible membrane approximately six inches from the surface, the membrane swirls as the ceiling swirls behind it. Typically the higher the dose, the more fine, intricate and pronounced the swirls become... This is typically how i gauge how hard I am tripping..

 

It doesnt have anything to do with the mind, but it shows how we are progressing at such a fast rate and that in a few hundred years (if we still exist) we will be capable of things we couldn't even IMAGINE now.

 

Any sufficiently advanced alien technology would be indistinguishable from magic.

- Arthur C. Clarke

 

Very true. What do you plan to do for a career, isn't it criminology? (I think that might have been dronelore)

 

i am in school for criminology, and i may even by coincidence one day work in the field of criminology, but i will do whatever is best.

 

2C-B (oral)
Only tried it once, and took two capsules, about 25-30 mg. I was watching Iron Man with my friend who flew out from WI for a week and brought em. And Robert Downey Jr. Was FUCKING ALIEN LOOKING, like to the point it was disturbing me, made some spinning visuals but the people in that movie looked so god damn weird, it was the strangest i've ever seen people look on tv on a psychedelic i'll never forget that. Than I wen't and talked to my mom who was in the other room cause i started to get real unnerved to ask her for a valium since it was just causing alot of uncomfort, she didn't know i was tripping, and she ended up talking to me about something before she gave me one, and damn her face turned into myself, for the first time in my life, i really saw the resemblance between us, than her middle started to warp sideways, and her head warped the other way and her lips bulged and she kind of bleed-in to wood wallpaper in the backroom, which looked like water and she turned into this fish looking thing it was quite different than stuff i usually took, that was my first 2C experience too. then i took the valium, and ended up feeling like ecstasy and was in the living room rolling on the floor cause when the valium mellowed it, the body load just became incredible.
2C-B (snorted)
A few days later, i got curious cause all my friends went nuts about the visuals from it snorted, and i snorted like 15mg, 20mg i forget, and well yes, they we're amazingly rich, probably one of the most visual experiences i've had, but I didn't like it, it was pointless, it was like hardcore visuals that meant absolutely nothing. Plus it felt like I got punched in the face, never snorted 2C's after that
2C-C
Extreme warping, my aunts computer chair warped and melted nearly in half, and it was like somebody was turning down the lights, and turning them up over and over major fluctuation in light perception at the peak. The lights on the ceiling hung down and they we're just like waving and dancing to a huge extent, get visual experience, it was very much what i'de picture mescaline to be like but no bad side effects and highly euphoric. And walking outside was like walking outside on a psychedelic for the first time.
2C-E
Things in my visual field spun really fast in circles, pictures of faces we're moving like with acid, but like sporratically opening and closing their mouths then completely spinning in circles like a tire screeching away, and under a blanket in the dark, i saw a giant shapeshifting snake and had an epic battle, and it was like being in a cave and this very complex geometry was lining the walls, and went into a real head trip imaging fighting the snake i talked about it somewhere else here, it was nuts.
2C-I
Not much happened, the usual with faces kind of looking off, like with acid, but slightly different, i wasn't really impressed. Things turned slightly purple and that was about it, for all the trips i took off a 125mg sample
DOC which was sold as acid
I took 3 and friends A and B took 1 hit, im sitting there and i start tripping HARD, so hard everything was moving in the room, and this was relatively a short come-up and it was very much like acid, but there was something slightly different. I'm sitting there quite A & B are just coming up, friend C calls, and needs to be let in, of course i didn't wanna cause alarm or anything i went to the elevator and it closed and the fucking elevator started to shrink in on me, faces started appearing over every inch of its interior i was having trouble keeping the anxiety down, cause i never expected this much i get down to the apt. door, my friend is nowhere to be seen, this of course confuses me more, some weird guy walked in and past me, and his face turned into a demon and freaked me out, so i start walking back up the stairs avoiding the elevator halfway up my phone rings, its C, downstairs again, turns out she called from the bus and was almost there needless to say this just confused the hell out of me the mental confusion was extreme and she was really warped looking like everything else, i barely said anything, and we went to the elevator, where i just stuck out my hand and was like HERE, THERE FUCKING STRONG IM TRIPPING HARDER THAN I'VE EVER HAD. We got back to the apartment, where A & B where just going CRAZY over how intense this acid was, they kept going on and on about making jokes like "You know that one hitter quitter bud, this is that one hitter quitter acid" and im just sitting there on the couch just trying too keep myself calm, not moving, not talking just barely holding it together. And them continually going on and on about how intense it was when im sitting here on 3x the dose they are, then the worst thing in the world happens, A looks at me and was like whats wrong bro, you trippin? your being quiet, i just shook my head yeah, and then both of get up walk up to me stick their faces at me too see my face correctly cause they thought something was wrong. And then asked are you having a bad trip? Then my mind just took over, and was like yeah then they realized i took 3 hits and damn if their tripping that hard i must be in agony. I had no Xanax, no benzos at all, I was so bad in my mental state i almost walked outside and called an ambulance, of course being me I was worried about them on top of me, So i started devising a way to call the paramedics outside so they didn't get in trouble, cause i for one I was in such a bad place i would have done it just to get xanax from them, and on top of that it hit me this is probably a DOx chemical since the tabs weren't tabs but paper that got liquid dropped on it, but it was from a reliable friend who always got good acid. I ultimately descided to go in my room and lay down away from people. on my floor matress i lifted my arm, and low and behold i see a fucking person run out from my armpit running sideways through the air than started fractilizing and it happened every time i looked at my arm, then eyes went closed, where I had a rather fascinating flight through the cosmos which felt like forever and ended up being an hour long during which point i 100% was convinced I was dead from a fucking DOx overdose, it wasn't ego-loss like the tryptamines give, as i was still aware of me, but i fully thought i died until i finally opened my eyes. At which point i was more calm. Then i rejoined ABC and had an amazing 16 hour long trip, where i watched dogfights between cartoon-like airplanes on my ceiling (kinda like fear & loathing when he sees the planes) but more vivid, and they we're fucking at war blowing shit up, countless more visuals occured. All-In-All it was a very worthwhile experience, cause it let me know what a bad trip was lol. I was in no physical danger, just it was so intense, and extremely bad setting from the beginning.
MDA
The first time i took it, mixed with MDMA i had just picked up a vial of acid from a new person my friend swore was legit, so we dosed it out, me and fried A took the MDA/MDMA and 2 hits of it, and friend B came for the acid and took 3 hits well me and friend A started our roll, and this was the first time using MDA, and well visuals started i was worried we got ripped, not really intense, friend A is one to exaggerate and went nuts thinking he was tripping hard on acid, i noticed something different, and friend B who just dosed cid still felt nothing, than it hit me, FUCK ripped off, these visuals cant be acid their too mellow, plus its been an hour and B wasnt feeling anything, felt bad so i threw him a roll and friend A looked like an ASS hahaha visuals we're mellow only 1 tab shifting floors things waving. Next experience with MDA was with pure when my good cid dealer got a batch of MDA and capped em, i rolled with a new friend of mine, and we went to the roof of my 20 story apt. that overlooked all of milwaukee and all the buildings turned into robots and was looking in awe cause i was feeling so euphoric and the visuals we're great, than my friend looks over at me and was like DUDE MILWAUKEES MILWAUKEES INFESTED WITH ROBOTS haha great when you and your trip buddy see the same thing exactly.
DXM
Really the only thing i've gotten good closed eye visuals from (aside that DOC) I've seen everything you can think of, most memorable was walking through the amazon jungle, and conversing with a shaman vivid enough that i was physically there in the jungle talking to him if i would have had any effects on memory i would have fully thought i was there very memerable. Than of course theres the potentiation of LSD with DXM which is needless to say very visual, it's exxagerated the acid visuals like water was in my eyes kind of fun
Salvia Divinorum
A's Big screen TV became OMINOUS, and turned into a dinosaur looking thing slightly, than my next time using it was outside i melted into the earth and was terrified beyond belief, instantly after blowing the smoke it was like everything in my body and mind did everything it could to fight the trip, and it was the longest 5 minutes of my life, never tried it again, but im very intrigued to try it again
Dipenhydramine
Nothing happened, nothing happened, felt tired, was dumb back then, we dosed outside, went to mcdonalds, nothing happened, laughed at the black dude that always is working there, and this weird kid we call robot cause he walks like a robot, nothing happened, my best friend and trip-buddy from the beginning of time started to get auditory hallucinations of some ghetto dude going HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY!! lol, went to the park by the lake, felt like shit, then i saw a diamond shape thing hovering on the ground, then we went home, and we'nt to sleep, i we looked like death and just crashed on the couch and i pulled a blanket over me, and i lifted it up slightly, and a GIANT spider started to climb out on top of me, and i mean, one the size of me like a giant spider scary shit, delierants are pointless
4-Acetoxy-DMT
I had very different visuals than from shrooms, first trip was cool, slightly similar to shrooms but more ayahuasca like (from what i've read of ayahuasca) than second trip 25mg it was like the tryptamine forces wanted to smack me in the head cause i got too caught up in looking at the visuals for fun, and then proceeded to have unexplainable visuals, very different from shrooms that time

4-HO-DMT, 4-PSOP-DMT (aka psilocybin mushrooms)
First time, I became tiny like i was a fly in the room, and the bright lights amused me (first psychedelic experience) than i got into shrooms more over the years, and have had some incredible experiences, look in the MDMA section to read about my 2 hit LSD followed by 3.5g Chocolate Shrooms with 2 MDA/MDMA Pills now that was something, Shrooms gives me contact with the voice, and is the most colorful thing i've taken, love it to death.

NOW

LSD
Saw buildings turn into giant asian looking guards, saw a man frozen in time on the milwaukee street leaning on something, and never made any movement we went in the store, came out, dude was still there not moving an inch, went in my apt. came back outside 30mins later, same guy was across the street doing the same thing, WEIRD not a visual but lol caught our attention. Dosed 4 Hits of really good acid with my gay friend and my BFF-TRIPGIRL at his boyfriends house, Him and his BF who sold me the acid both took 3 hits after some convincing them haha same as my friend, we all dosed in the car than he descides to go to wallmart to pick up a movie, and walking through walmart the doses start to kick in, crazy, made it to his house, and LMAO dude had like 3 cats, and little italian greyhound (which i've never seen anyone else have as i used to have one their not too common its like a greyhound dog superskinny but slightly bigger than a cat) and like a lizard in a cage, his cats fur was spiraling and shapeshifting almost we went outside when it got dark and the everyblade of grass in the yard turn into a humanoid corpse almost and started falling towards us me and we all shared the vision, we saw a bear on a tree trunk, than we looked at the stars and daaamn you can imagine, what that must have looked like to anyone who would have seen us, 4 teenagers just standing in the middle of the yard staring at the sky for 20 minutes without pause.

But The most incredible vision given to me through acid. Which set me off, on my intense pursuit of understanding the nature of hallucinogens and their effect on primitive cultures, was a few weeks after that 4 hit dose, me and my BFF tripped on like 3 hits and took the milwaukee bus, which was interesting and weird never could tell if it was visuals as there are some FUCKED UP LOOKING People on the bus at night we went to the minimart next to my apt. and this crazy lady walked up too us and was like "...I Haven't Eaten In Threeee Dayyyys" and we just hit the peak when we got there and we're like WTF JUST HAPPENED.

But something magical happened, When we got to my apartment, I sat on the floor and looked at the carpet the visuals were coming on strong much like the 4 hits, but next thing i know the carpet starts to slither, and two snakes rose up out of the floor and stared me in the eye, and wrapped around forming what looked like DNA (this was a time, before I even knew how the DNA molecule's Double Helix shape was discovered by Crick on an acid trip) afterwards my field of view had these what I actually described as arabic-esque looking and I felt like they really ment something, these symbols came and presented themselves like it was showing me a message, it was at that point i took a really serious stance on hallucinogen-use and shaped much of what i study today. What I find so fascinating about this and really wish to express this visual, is that yesterday i just picked up two new books finally, The Cosmic Serpant by Jeremy Narby and Supernatural: Meetings with the Ancient Teachers of Mankind by Graham Hancock as i've been wanting to read them for a while now, and last night when skimming through Supernatural i noticed it had in it a great description about Cricks discovery, almost identical to my experience, and the next thing listed in the book was The encounter with these arabic-like symbols describing it just as i did above. And if thats not enough to completely blow my fucking mind, I sat here today and read the first 100 pages of Supernatural through his experiences with ayahuasca, and again like the symbols, like crick, what he described in it is identical to what happened to me with the snakes, there was even a drawing of the two snakes and how they looked when they formed the double helix, and it brought back memories because it looks exactly like i saw, even some of the symbols look something like what I saw but i cant be certian, as i can't i was so fascinated by them i never thought to draw them, but theres no way possible there is any coincidence at work here, im not exaggerating this at all, it caught me off guard big time, and just blew my mind, Now my mind is racing with thousands of questions and an entirely new view of what life and consciousness is about got dropped into my head, I never looked upon LSD, as really being up there with the beta-carbolines and tryptamines. I cannot wait to try ayahuasca soon i feel as if im finally ready[/size]

 

^^^thanks for taking the time to write all that
interesting read

that's pretty crazy about seeing the same things as the authors of those books

 

Telephones are a product of the human mind

 

my favorite visuals came from some good 'ol extracted DMT [as i've never gotten my hands on synthed], after taking my hit, i closed my eyes, and THAT was far too much to describe.. but when i opened them, everything was as it should be, except it was all made up of tiny gears, making up bigger gears, making up bigger ones, all moving together in perfect synchronicity to construct the scene that i would have normally taken for granted: my friend's living room. :]

 

Awesome, thank you.