Demons where do they come from?

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  1. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    where they ever even in hell to begin with?

    also i saw a ABC special on demons and one pastor spoke about how they enter your body through breathing....can this be supported bibically..
     
  2. Lynnbrown

    Lynnbrown Firecracker

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    That is actually an interesting question.

    I guess I've always just thought of demons as "minions" of the devil...and although I've never really given it much thought, I would imagine that the devil, as well as certain of his followers in the "fallen angels" category would have the ability, so to say, of Making (creating) "servants". I really don't know. I do know that the devil has certain "talents", or "gifts"...what ever word you want to use.

    I know that Jesus cast out a number of demons from one man, made them get in a pile of pigs which then jumped over a cliff into an ocean...so demons can definitely be destroyed/vanquished. (according to the bible)

    And about the breathing being the (physical) way a demon would get into/enter someone, that is also an impression I have had. ALSO, for someone to become possessed, I don't think it can happen unless Jesus is NOT there, in your heart (Jesus or God - I am not going to become all persnickery).

    A person can open themselves up to being possessed. Some stupid jacklegs (jackasses) have actually asked for just that...history is full of them.

    I believe some ppl can become possessed unknowingly...according to their actions/choices. That type would most probably deny believing in anything, a common (and quite effective) tool of the devil - denial.

    Just because an ostrich sticks his head in the sand, does not mean a land rover is not fixing to smash his butt. Yet, that is the same basic principle that many ppl live their lives by...if they can't see it, it isn't happening. ;)
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    No

    No, they can not "enter your body" unless you first make yourself receptive to their influence.

    As for where they came from they were Angels that turned against God and joined with Satan, thus making themselves demons.
     
  4. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    OWB, agreed.
     
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    a simple begone satan will do..

    Id be more concerned over ticks than demons tbh..
     
  6. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    so hollywood made that part up.
     
  7. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAaiBBpjn4A"]ABC News- Puking Out Demons - YouTube
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, someone made it up. [​IMG]
     
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    They come from Louisiana, with banjo's on the knee, and they're creepy late night weirdos running televangelism ministries....

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Lynnbrown

    Lynnbrown Firecracker

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    orison is a poet. :D
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XGsfnIbZbY&feature=related"]God Loves Money - Mike Murdock - YouTube
    This is funny as hell..:devil:
     
  12. Evil DrPorkchop

    Evil DrPorkchop Member

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  13. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    I've seen those shows or infomercials, whatever they are. Video made me lol hard, lol.

    "and because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed."
     
  14. Ddoright

    Ddoright Senior Member

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    What the hell is a demon? I mean, my 1st graders asked me that and I was really at a lose. The bible speaks of Jesus casting the demons into swine which seems pretty straight forward. But then again, today I can't help but think demons are a actually a mental disease. When are demons real entities and when are they a problem of brain function? So confusing to me. The kids accept it, but in today's world it seems really lame and a little ignorant.
     
  15. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    True physically manifesting demonic possession is real and very rare.

    I will admit that many time in the past, there were probably people with illnesses in many cultures regarded as either possessed, or powerful spiritually.

    The Church always takes a skeptical stance on miracles and possessions until a thorough investigation can ensue. I have said for a long time as well that falling into grave sin is like a demonic possession in a way in that you have completely given your body over to sin. Where it differs is that demonic possession can only affect your physical body, not your eternal soul. Sin does affect the soul too.
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    As has already been pointed out, demons are angels that have turned against God and have joined with Satan in his war against God.

    Demons are always real entities and do not need to possess someone to become a real entity.

    As for the difference between demon possession and mental defect, they are not the same thing and falls under the heading of you'll know it when you see it.
     
  17. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Yeppers.

    Can't rep you yet.....

    Biblically, they're the good guys, the ones who gawd punished for not practicing doublethink and pretending to not see that lucifer had a damn good point. Maybe they're gods mistakes.... accidentally given free will and morals....
     
  18. Meliai

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    When Christians debate ideas like demons, do they do so seriously? Or is it more on a hypothetical or philosophical level?

    I've seen a few discussions thrown around here recently concerning christianity and it just makes me think, huh. People really believe that?

    The underlying message of Christianity is great and all, but do Christians still really believe all the mythical junk added in?
     
  19. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Nope, probably the opposite. :)

    (2 Peter 2) "They have wandered off the right road and followed the footsteps of Balaam son of Beor,[f] who loved to earn money by doing wrong."
     
  20. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Depends, a non Christian for example can argue these things as a hypothetical or philosophical level, but I'm certain that their is true believing in those matters.

    As for mythical junk, sure many can see it that way but not everyone does :)
     

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