Decisions...

I'm trying to decide whether to get 2ce or t7.
I understand basic differences, such as e being more mentally stimulating.
How do visuals compare? Is one more intense?
Also I've heard both to be very euphoric.
Which one produces greater euphoria?

 

From what I've heard, 2C-E has good euphoria, especially with music. It lasts really long I think, and I have a huge aversion to 2C-T-7 because I think there's vomiting involved and I don't much see the point in taking anything that would make me throw up. I would think that means the chemical isn't good for you. However, many things that are not good for you make you feel better than things that are good for you. So maybe you would enjoy 2C-T-7 better if you didn't give a shit. I may be mixing the 2C-Ts up but I remember a lot of negatives when it comes to the Ts, so I have an aversion to those.

 

Go with T-7. Those are very europhic and visual, and more mindfuck. But 2C-E is in same area. 2C-T-7 is said to be more like Mescaline, but I dunno about 2C-E.

 

2C-E can last up to 24 hours, yea maybe higher doses, but still, interesting. T-7 is 8-15.

T-7 seems to have more negative effects than positive, on wikipedia. Seems like it's an MAO-I so combinations can be dangerous and people have died.

Citation needed on the deaths, but I don't really need a citation. There's quite a few things that no one has died from or even heard anyone die from.

If it's going to be T-7, I would highly recommend a small amount with no combinations and be careful.

 

Dpt.

 

I've done a fair amount of research on both, so I know about t7's dangers, but doing it by itself in reasonable doses should be ok.

Lol I can't get DPT until I'm the only one going in on it, cuz I'm the only one round here lookin to have my face melted .
Right now I'd honestly get more use out of t7 than DPT.
Lots of social environments (parties) in the summer.
DPT is more of a solo thing.

 

The maoi with t7 is very interesting though.
I don't plan on doing any mixing at all (other than herb) with t7, but wouldn't it be interesting if you could take an oral dose of DMT with it, and have it work via t7's maoi?
lol 2ct7 and DMT....sounds like a hell of a ride.

 

Actually it's possibly an MAO-A, so i dunno.

 

i chose 2ce, but that's me

 

I was gonna mix t7 with DPT but I was too afraid.

 

Lol, that sounds like a volatile combination.

MAO-agonist? Would that work the opposite as an MAO-I?

2ct7 with oral DMT is very interesting indeed, but I would want to know more about toxicity, maybe it would be fun, sure.

 

I really don't know much about MAO-A/I, but you appear to be correct, or at least close to it.

You could let me try it out, and if I die you know not to mix the two .

 

Yea. Make sure to write a trip report while you are doing it so people know what it's like. What a waste of an experience if no one else knows what ever happened!

It really is too bad we have the prohibition. Because, otherwise, you could like, in a utopian world, call the hospital and let them know what you are about to do so if they don't hear from you in like 12 hours they should check on you. It would create lots of new jobs! Like investigational trip sitting or something. That would certainly educate the medical community about what is really going on in the world and maybe the mind.

Isn't the prohibition awesome!


Now that I think about it... if it's an MAO-A that means either it's an MAO antagonist (hardly any search results for "MAO agonist" in quotes), I don't know how this is different than an inhibitor...

Or, it could mean that it is...

Now I don't know the significance of 2C-T-7 being either one of these, except that if it is an MAOA like described above from Wikipedia, then it seems that MAOA deaminates things. Amine. Like tryptamine. Does this mean it is the opposite of the inhibitor then? That makes some sense and now I'm wondering if MAOA IS effectively an MAO agonist in a sense... If MAOA deaminates things, that seems like the opposite of an MAO-I making DMT more potent.

This would mean that taking 2C-T-7 with oral DMT would do less than just taking DMT orally, which does nothing, unfortunatley. This is the way I understand it, maybe I'm linking things incorrectly. I am going off of the assumption that an MAO agonist is the opposite of an MAO inhibitor. Ugh, am I wrong, or off? I'm pretty sure an antagonist is the opposite of an agonist. I'll have to find out more about what exactly an inhibitor is and how it compares to agonists and antagonists.

 

^^^or hell, maybe you would at least feel safe in calling the hospital if something went awry?

great point man

 

I just tried 2C-T-7 for the first time just the other day, as well as recieved my sample of 2C-E along with it (haven't tried 2C-E yet). I took around 25-30mg of 2C-T-7, the first hour was pretty bad, luckily i fasted before-hand and the nausea i did get even though very uncomfortable and bad no puking and it went away as the trip started around 1:30-2:00 into it. I've done lots of psychedelics before, but 2C-T-7 definatly tops all of them visual wise, it topped/rivaled all of my high-dose LSD trips.. It was very very like LSD visual wise, but also very adaptable (like what i heard said about it before, its like you can change the visuals to match any psychedelic you can think of) and I've never gotten real euphoria on any 2C's that i would say could rival MDA / MDMA someway, but this did it had the depth of LSD, and joyous euphoria. If you have to choose between 2C-E and 2C-T-7 go with the T-7 since its harder to come by, don't pass it up!!

Im interested in 2C-E now, i know its going to be very deep and visual can't wait to compare the two. Think i'll try 2C-E tomorrow night.


2C-T-4

now theres a compound i would love to taste, i know where to find it, however its really expensive most people know which vendor im speaking of, same price for all their products, and they carry 2C-D minimum orders a gram.. I'de probably order some 2C-T-4 if i had some extra cash (since im a fan of dissociatives and i hear it has dissociative qualities too it) but at the same time 2C-D i would love to have to mix n' match with other rc's.

 

Did you not drink anything along with not eating beforehand?
And do you think smoking some might help with the nausea?

 

So I guess An MAO-A is essentially an inhibitor as well.
It would potentiate other psychs.
So the oral DMT should work in combination, but damn, it'd be incredibly intense.

 

OK, what does the A stand for, from your understanding? Is it agonist, antagonist, or Monoamine oxidase A? (Referring to the properties of 2C-T-7)

 

Monoamine oxidase A.

 

Well that's exciting! Then there must be a report done by someone about using 2C-T-7 and then DMT orally because that's very interesting...

I wonder how 2C-T-7 compares to the other active ingredients in ayahuasca that make DMT active orally...

Either way, 2C-Ts sound a little more volatile, so be careful if anyone chooses to embark on this unprecedented journey.

Best bet is to wait until the prohibition is over then the hospital could be notified beforehand, HAH, that will happen in three months I'm sure. /sad joke