I'm just curious, why did you use the word, 'illusion' in your definition? OP- what are you getting at?
(imo) Because this world is an illusion, it has already been planned out for us and it's kind of like a test I guess to see if we are able, not all is preplanned I don't think, you could still do something "controlling" to dramatically alter the outcome, like suicide.
we think we have control over something, we manipulate a person, we control an object, but over time our control becomes dependancy. we become dependant on that which we control, at which time we still control those items, but they also control us. who does the control really belong to? is there really such a thing as control?
Yeah, in some cases, such as discipline and education, independence ought to be the goal of control. I think it's interesting that the part of any experiment where you don't change any variables is called the 'control'. Without doing any deep etymological research, I intuitively think that this implies that the only absolute control we have is just to let things be. Perhaps this is in harmony with what you're saying here. In leadership, people often speak of the value of giving the illusion that your subordinates are in control. The idea is that if you give people the skills and training to make decisions, then delegate lots of authority, you can pop out of the office for long lunches and nobody will notice.
control is a matter of attribution. We all 'see' control happening, just like we 'see' other people around us within the flesh of their bodies. There is no way of actually saying where a person ends or starts.. but we still have a very deep sensation of single units of people and that they end at the extents of their control. Thus when someone is just in their body, they control their body and we see it. However if a person becomes paralysed, we do not think of them as extending to their legs or whatever it is (when we are in the presence of paralysed person.. that happens to me maybe not you). When we notice that a person is controlling some machine or an animal or something, to the extent at which they appear to be controlling it, is the extent to which it seems like an extension of their being
i don't really see how that is 'hitting it on the head' i think sheerwackiness got it. independance, freedom, is true control. if we try to control our lives all we end up doing is restricting ourselves, being controlled, and essentially trapping ourselves in a box that we made ourselves. but independance does not see bounds.
Control seems to be a magic trick of some sort. Like the commodity federal reserve notes. It takes two to make it work. One must fool the other into submission.
u give one a pill with opium, and u give a sugar pill to the other person and u tell him its the same. <-(control) then u look at the person that took the opium, and u can tell how he acts different by looking at the control...
mmm you can give someone ten options and it will be more than theyve ever been presented with before.. but you can make all of those options somehow lead to your benefit. And in doing so, control these people by giving them control.. as long as you control the control they have
Those are my memories too lol, try talking to the cops in your own kitchen when there's over a 100 hits of acid upstairs in your bedroom, oh god the fear, THE FEAR
