confused about goverment

it would definitely destroy or at least radically transform the subculture in the way we know it and in that aspect it would be bad. Though we mustn't forget that for us to be able to "sneak around" and toke, people who grow, transport and sell weed are risking harsh punishments, sometimes even life in prision or death.

 

i want to fight to make it leagal

 

yea but think about it, say u know weed is legal- but has age limit like over 18 or sumting. younger ppl would still be able to get it just like ciggartes with its 16 thingy. so i know tht any1 who wants to blaze now can get weed quete easy off dealers- but some ppl dont do drugs cuz theire illegal0- and if they were legal- nothing would stop them. so instead of seeing all those kids in school smellin of tobbacco in class- they will be potheads- 50% of the more open minded kids will be on pot in school- crazy shit lol. but anyway- onviously if its sold like ciggarettes it will most likely hav additives- but ones tht make it better/stronger but still its unnatural. but one thing u dont realise is- if its legal u can grow em like any plants in your garden/window sill without fear of bust. but good points will be underage ppl wont have to go through as much shit from their parents- since its legal etc etc. also there would have to be new laws like if ur cought driving after blazin etc, and posibly - in uk theres new laws about smoking in pubs (bars) which serve food, so something like this would probibely happen. i know its legal in amsterdam etc- but im not sure how it works there- i know about coffee shops etc, which suggest it wont be anything like ciggarrete sales- because tobbaco is dry when u buy it- when canibis dries out it becomes shitty... so i reckon either chemicals/additives will be used or something like tht. i think it wil be legalised in next 10-15 years in uk atlast, because all the recent- well ok not so recent but still reviews and it being reduced to class c again suggests something good . at the moment i dont care eitherway- since it will be in the far future- time when ill have my own place to smoke all i want without being bothered about authorietes. but i would still prefer legalisations for all the pothead adults/teens to come after us. it will sure change their expierience. like us finding dealers and shit, findin ones tht are trustworthy- all they will have to do is ask someone older to buy 'em some or just walk in the watever place if theire old enough. but anyways im still a bit high and this is what i came up with. feel free to comment as always




shit im aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAm fucked

 

so ^ whatcha' think??

 

Something you said in there about "potheads that come after us" made me realize something; If weed is legalized, all of the people that are born into a world where weed is legal will not be as curious about it because it doesn't have that "rebellious" aspect to it and they may never try it. If we are honest, I am sure a lot of us started smoking weed because we were always told that it was wrong, and we wanted to be rebellious, then we continued to smoke because we liked it. Legalization may prevent many people from ever trying weed; people that could actually be helped tremendously by a little tokage. Plus, like you said, additives will most likely be present and the completely harmless herb we have all grown to love, will become addictive and carcinogenic because of added chemicals. Potheads of the future will not be smoking the same weed we smoke today; it will actually turn them into addicts

 

i never smoked pot to be a rebel, i tryed it after my m8's stories of how awesome it is, and i never smkoed until i found out it was harmless, THEN i smoked cuz i loved it.

thats what i said the future people wont appreciate it or anything- they will just buy it like ciggs and yea probably be addicts. i reckon many more people will smoke as its legal and alot more easily available. but then weed wont seem like nothin special, those annoying dry days, and then gettin some bud and gettin that amazing feeling will be gone. so yea

 

Eh man, I don't think the textile industry has anything to do with it. At least in the Netherlands you can grow as much male marihuanaplants if you want (in fact, there is a whole maze in the neighbourhood here), since male plants don't have any actual weed on it, but can be used for clothes.

 

We're talking primarily about the US textile industry, where it became illegal in the first place. You can't really use the Netherlands as an example, as you people are pragmatic and realize that marijuana is not that big of a deal, and you act accordingly. (god bless you). One of the reasons that mj became illegal was so that cheap hemp would become illegal and not compete with the much more expensive and labour-intensive cotton industry, and the logging industry. After WWII the US emerged as the world's superpower and was therefore able to influence the UN to make cannabis illegal.

I'm pretty sure that most cannabis, at least the one grown in large quantities, is treated with pesticides, fungicides and the like, much like other crops. Since it is illegal anyway they might even use really bad stuff like DDT for all that we know. If it were legal there would be quality control, and we could choose to buy ecologically grown weed, which would definitely be free of added chemicals.

 

true i guess...

 

Sure, there would be professional quality control, but the big tobacco corporations will most likely be the people growing and distributing the marijuana. They are sure to add chemicals to make it addictive, and the chemicals that are added will most likely be at least slightly carcinogenic.

 

yeah, if we let Big Tobacco grow & distribute, then they'll probably add all kinds of shit to mj, and probably mix it with tobacco too. I think that it should be grown by a separate entity, and then they could sell it in any way they want (pills, food, soft drinks) as long as the untampered product would be widely available too.

Having thought about this, I think the best way would be like the dutch do it: sold at designated places, with no advertising, no sales to minors, etc; but combined with a legalization of growing, with special taxes (of course, medical marijuana would be isent of taxes) and quality control. If legalization would occur, they would have to conduct investigations regarding how well people drive when high, and operate heavy machinery and that sort of things, and eventually impose laws regarding driving under the influence and stuff.

 

Yeah but the thing is, the tobacco companies already have trademarked namebrands for when weed is finally legalized, so they're already set for distribution.

 

damn... you sure?
well, if that's the case, then they must think it'll soon be legal too...

 

If pot becomes legal and if big tobacco gets into growing it, I don't see the current crop of growers stopping. Consider the current situation with beer. There is Anhauser-Busch which dominates the market by selling crappy beer. (IMHO) Then there are a few smaller companies like Miller. Then there are the big microbreweries like Sierra Nevada and Anchor. Then lots and lots and lots of micro brew. And also the homemade beer makers.

I don't see why pot won't go in the same direction. Legalization won't stop the current growers from planting their seeds.

There will be a loss of the outlaw status and the loss of cannibus culture, but all those people smoking freely and breathing easy will be worth it. (I shudder to think what Madison Avenue will do with 4:20)

 

^^^ yes, it should be treated a bit like alcohol (in contrast with tobacco)

 

Every person or family should be allowed to grow a certain amount of pot per year without government being involved at all, just like it currently is with beer and wine.

People in the US are allowed to brew beer and vint wine (and it's a huge amout, something like hundred's of gallons/yr.) at home without government interference.
You can't sell it, but you can give it away to like friends. Of course the black market would continue.
Quality would remain high, prices would drop slightly.

 

That's a bit ironical in the Netherlands. It's 'legal' to buy weed in a coffeeshop and walk around with it, but there is no legalization for massive growing for coffeeshops. So the goverment knows that most of the weed sold in coffeeshops has been grown illegal.
There is quality control though. The goverment is highly alarmed by the fact that intensive growing caused a 600% increase of the amount of thc in some dutch weed. So they say it has become as dangerous as hashoil which is on the hard drugs list here. Ah well, they're busy with it all the time.

Are you sure you can't grow male mj plants in the states? That would be just typical American

 

does anyone know about any groups that want to get meth/heroin off of schedule 1 er 2...

that would be funny

 

eh?

 

yes, that's why i propose the dutch model but with legalised growing, and maybe even legal hash import (that'd be cool)