Combination

I'll be going to see Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck play in a couple of days, and I was thinking of grabbing some doses with me.

I've read a lot about 2c-e having great synergy with tryptamines, so I've decided that it's going to be 2c-e and 4-aco-dmt. I was thinking 20mg/25mg respectively.

Now my question is, do you think it would be worth it to throw miprocin on top of that? I'm thinking I might drown out the 2c-e in tryptamines, or the 4-aco-dmt and miprocin might be very similar.


Even if I don't get any answers, I'll just use this thread to write up a report later

 

sorry, I lost any respect I had for EC AKA arthritis hands after the annoying tmobile commercial...
good luck with your dose though...

 

That ad was horrible.. dear god.

But I will try to have fun.. and I'll try not to listen to his arthritis playing through

 

ide leave the miprocin out and just take more of something else. unless you like miprocin alot, im just not the biggest fan myself. but i like me some 2ce and 4aco. the body would get pretty twichy for me, i get some very noticeable tremors on all these 3 things haha.

if you did throw it in, i would suggest uping the 2ce dose if your worried about it being drowned out by the tryptamines.

im also looking forward to the report

 

i'd take less 2c-e and more 4-aco-dmt...like 17 and 30?

i can't speak from experience, but would you even be able to tell the difference between adding miprocin, or just more 4-aco-dmt?

 

That's another thing I was wondering a bout.. the two might be fairly similar.

I think the 4-ho-mipt might be more pushy than the 4-aco-dmt.

 

hmm...interesting.

how would you compare the potency of the two?

 

Adding a third?

That 2C-E/4-AcO-DMT is something I've wanted to try. But I never have patience or the raw cash power to order both at the same time.

Enjoy.

 

I thought that 25mg of 4-aco-dmt was much milder than 25mg of miprocin.

But that was mainly the 2 chemical's different effects.. due to me finding 4aco so very relaxing, I think it's hard to make a potency comparison.

 

well, 25mg of 4-aco-dmt is a lowish dose, but 25mg is supposed to be a somewhat high dose of miprocin?

[i'm beginning to think that instead of trying new things and buying miprocin, i should have kept with the 4-aco-dmt]

 

25 a low dose?

I sat in a basement apartment and watched the walls unfold leading way to just "space" as in I could see farther than I could see, nothing was blocking the "horizon." 25 mg of 4-AcO-DMT beat all experience to that point. But maybe it's because it was the first tryptamine that wasn't LSD to TRPP.

 

which salt did you have? and how did you dose it?

the unknown nasal dose i took [between 20 and 30mg probably 26 or so] was a true ++++ experience.

i don't have much experience with it orally, but it seems to have at least a substancially higher bioavailibility when insufflated.

truly a magical compound...EVERYBODY NEEDS to try 4-aco-dmt.

 

i would stick to two; either 4acodmt + 2ce OR 4homipt + 2ce. probably 4aco.
are you planning to drop them at the same time? i'd have more questions about timing than dosage. by the time you've tried each of these separately (have you only tried 4acodmt once?) you know what kinda dosage you personally like. but the timing could make a big difference. i'd probably take 'em at once, so you don't get a slight tolerance to the 2nd. but that way you'd plan on coming down from the 4acodmt (i assume the "comedown" is very mild) while the 2ce is slight going.
and i'd maybe take a bit lower dose of the 2ce, but that's ME. also i dunno if i could handle that at a concert. who are you goin with? again, that's me though. i'm sure you'll have a fuckin blast.

i'm definitely interested in reading your report, and trying this myself one day. another combo that interests me is 4acodmt + LSD. anyone tried that? i've already asked several times about 2ce + LSD.

 

I've never combined these chems, but are you sure this is the setting you would want for this?

just a note on snorting 4 aco dmt: almost immediately after i snort it, a thick mucous-y liquid forms in my mouth and i spat it out without knowing that was most of my dose

 

Trust me, he can handle it:tongue:

 

I think I'm going to end up sticking with 2, I'm just pondering whether or not it'll be intense enough.. I guess too little is better than too much

I was thinking down the 2c-e, wait 30-45min and then down the 4acodmt. Probably going to be around 30min in between the two.

I have only dropped 4-aco-dmt once, but 25mg was a nice amount. I think with around 20mg of 2c-e it'll be about right.

 

So I decided; 20mg of 2c-e and 30mg of 4-aco-dmt.

It should make for a good show

 

that's going to be epic!

i can't wait for the trip report

 

That's gonna be intense

 

Don't want to thread jack. I had what I read somewhere [don't ask me where!] was the weaker form, fumarate. It was just in a capsule and downed.

On that bioavailability/insufflated stuff: I snorted 15mg [the end of the supply] and had only slight visuals and a little trippiness in the thought patterns. But this may have been caused by the fact that I was indulging in 4-AcO-DMT every day. Every single fucking day for 4 days, then that 15 insufflated the fifth. Might have something to do with it lol. I had an awesome trip the first two times, I had a trip that was moderately intense, almost 'boring' and not qualitatively good or bad the third time, and the fourth was just a little taste of a bad trip. [I learned what a real bad trip was later, but it didn't make this 4-AcO-DMT bad experience any milder.]