Causality

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by Hjarloprillar, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    What is causality?

    this happens .. and it causes that.
    What if.. nothing happened.. And then without cause. something did.[happen]

    Something as simple a a glass falling to the ground. or . as in the case of the matrix. where it gets more involved.. he breaks the vase.
    Few know.. that a HUGE number of people refuse to watch/talk of the martix.
    Because the idea that realty may be a virtual enviroment.
    or that causality is variable.

    IM NOT PROMOTING A MOVIE. The thinking here goes way back to the 1800's
    Descartes pissed of many with 'I Think therefore i exist'

    because.. it stuck a proverbial wrench in the works.

    One that cannot be removed without a new type of science.
    Quantum and einsteinian. and newtonian. '
    We are children
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Okay..... What caused this post?
     
  3. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    ^The red pill.
     
  4. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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  6. Hjarloprillar

    Hjarloprillar Banned

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    You did
    You live n a linear unmodified reality.
    vanilla

    you act.. it happens. [Though this is a presumption.. This 'vanilla reality may have been modified many times.. .. would we know?]
    Think outside the cereal box Tyson

    Prill
     
  7. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    There's a box?
     
  8. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    How do you measure an event?
     
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    Hjarloprillar Banned

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  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    What caused this?
     
  11. fkkbg

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    You can't say nothing happened, something is always happening. Cause and effect has more variable than can be measured. Time is recorded by what is happening. However, there was a time when nothing was happening until some single event that started it all. The influences of events from that time onward become more and more complicated.
     
  12. Yert

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    You guys are referencing determinism. Yes it's real, you can't escape the chain of cause and effect. It is linear, the past is on the same line the present and future are on. Try to enjoy the ride and be a positive influence wherever possible.
     
  13. scratcho

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    Nothing just happened here. And nothing happened.
     
  14. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Determinism relies on the false presumption that the universe is absolutely perfect when it most probably is not. If the universe was perfect then energy and matter would never exist. Energy only exist in a medium of imbalance.

    Determinism is an illusion.
    Also,
    There is no spoon!
     
  15. Yert

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    That's ridiculous. You haven't thought about it enough. Here you go =)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dodTNPp12rg"]Sam Harris on The Illusion of Free Will -1/3 - YouTube
     
  16. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Boring!

    Your illusion of insightfulness is an illusion.
     
  17. Yert

    Yert Member

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    I don't know what to tell ya. I'll have to assume you're denying the truth until you acknowledge it.
     
  18. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Bla bla bla, ridiculous. Bla bla bla denial... all you've done is post a vid too boring to watch that starts off about brain scan shit. As if our understanding of the mind was NOT still in its infancy. If there's any real facts and logic in there please put it up or shut the fuck up.

    Logic:
    1- The universe is imperfect - commonly accepted by science as the origins of energy and matter.
    2- imperfection lends itself to true random events. Fact - randomness only exists within the thresholds of imperfection.
    3- If 1 and 2 are correct then determinism is false.
     
  19. Yert

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    Don't put your ADD on display like that. Watch the video and focus you dim bitch. It mentions randomness. Listen here, things can't be totally random. You were born where you were born, not in China. A giant chunk of possible actions from you have already been eliminated by that fact. You continue to eliminate options like India, Russia, Peru and you're left on one life path. See if you can grasp it dummy.
     
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    I might be the only one severely amused by that.
     

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