Catholic Church is Satanic

This is why Pope John Pail the first was murdered after only a month. He intended to make this public. This is also why there is so much child abuse that is allowed to go on. Satanists value the innocence of children and believe they gain power from murdering them or corrupting them sexualy. Look at the cross the pope will often carry, and notice how the crucifix is bent, this is a satanic symbol. Like this one

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The original message of Jesus was much more akin to Buddhism. A message that you too could become what he was if you had the discipline and desire. Instead the church has perverted this message, and said they speak on behalf of Jesus. They portray themselves as the the only path to salvation, you have no power and to assume that you could be a Christ figure is labeled blasphemy. They are men who elect another man, the pope, and they say he speaks on behalf of god.

I find it interesting that the Catholic Church was founded centuries after the death of Jesus at which time they added much (the resurrection) to his story and took out much of what did not fit (the dead sea scrolls). Gnostic Christianity is the true message of Christ, not Catholicism.

What are your opinions on this?

 

the Jehovah Witnesses been saying that for years.. :leaving:

 

Ugh well it makes alot of people happy so eh

 

This isnt going to ruin Christmas is it?.. Oh wait the Mayans got that one covered this year..:window:

 

Truth!

 

Cardinal Bernard Law was transfered from the Boston Archdiocese to the Vatican after they learned he covered up for priests were molesting little boys



Cardinal Law's Top Ten Pet Peeves


10) Cardinal knowledge


9) Hot teen boy confessions


8) Altar boys who refuse to swallow the host


7) Smart-ass vandals who paint an E on the rectory sign


6) Priests who subscribe to 'Boys Life' just to read the articles


5) Priests who adopt a 'Hands-on' approach to troubled teens


4) When a bleeding rectum is heralded as a sign of Stigmata


3) Frivolous lawsuits filed by gay male parishioners


2) When the only Holy Water is a Golden shower


1) When that's not a Catholic Missal under his robe


Hotwater

 

Sure, I guess if you take everything out of context, re-word some of the things he said about himself and his purpose, ignore the prophecies he fulfilled (the Dead Sea Scrolls helped to verify this as well as who the prophecies were about.) and a handful of other things and yeah maybe it kinda sorta sounds like Buddhism.




Now the Roman Catholic church has longgggg been known to simply be a Christian paint job on the just about the oldest religion around, the Mother/Son cult. Goes waaayyy back to Baal worship. I honestly have forgotten a lot about it, but suffice it to say that most all the symbolism and ritual used in Roman Catholicism is directly descended from the ancient religions of Babylon and Assyria of the Old Testament times.
That is really pretty common knowledge, at least for a lot of people I know.


But Jesus' teaching being Buddhist.......naw, I don't think so.


I am curious about one thing I see time and again, that is some type of reference to "Jesus' original message".
What I don't understand is most who talk about this will also claim that the Bible and other writings have been doctored and can't be trusted, etc.,etc.

So my question is if all the writings about Jesus have been adulterated to suit the development of Christianity which is often the claim, How in the holy fuck do you genius's think you "know" what Jesus' "original message" was????

If everything written about him is bullshit, what the fuck makes you people think that the pieces of paper you happened to read or read about are genuine and to be believed????

I swear the utter and complete fucking lack of common sense and applied logic that has been permeating these forums is just astounding.

 

My opinion is you're jumping to conclusions if you mean the statement in the title serious.

Yes, I find that very interesting too :2thumbsup:

I thought there were many different gnostic views. Which one is the true message according to you exactly? In my humble opinion there is not one single true christian branch and neither are they all completely invalid (even not the catholic branch which indeed has many many flaws).
Also, don't really see where it is obvious that the catholic church is actually satanic. Because there are pedo's amongst them (which is horrible of course) or the pope had a bent crucifix?

More akin to buddhism than to the catholic church is indeed not the same as being buddhist indeed You make a good point about their sources of the original and true message though :2thumbsup:

 

Acts of pedophilia are not preformed as or in the guise of satanic ritual.

Satan is a mythological figure not a creature who rewards acts of devotion.

While the cathoic church turned a message of personal liberation into a cultural power grab, they are not satanic.

 

The influence is entirely possible as there were buddhist missionaries from the time of ashoka.

You make reference to myths incorporated from more ancient traditions and that is true of every other tradition. The particulars of any myth have a mundane interpretation and an esoteric interpretation. The particulars of a myth vary culturally but the esoteric interpretations do not.

Now how do you know what jesus original message may have been. Since it is hidden by time and treatment it is by definition esoteric. One way is by comparative religion studies which reveal common philosophical themes or esoteric truths.

And also another, is that the progenitors and those who perpetuate esoteric ideas are usually engaged in some effort toward personal development such as meditation, ritual devotion, or aestheticism.

 

That has been my methodology. Did a lot of study when I was younger.

One VERY important thing I learned from studying different religions/philosophies/etc is that there will ALWAYS be most things in common between them all. They will all have common themes relating to the human experience and human questions of existence and all that hooey.

Therefore I learned to adopt the method of ignoring the common themes and focusing on the differences. When you actually look at the differences rather than the commonalities you begin to see why the OP's idea is flawed and wholly inaccurate and really shows that he doesn't have a grasp on Jesus' teaching's the way he believes he does.

This is most often the case. Some yahoo notices similar ideas in different religions and in a pseudo EUREKA! moment they declare that all religions are really the same.

There are common features in any and all areas of thought concerning human experience, thought and spirituality.
Why?
Because we are all humans, duh! Of course there are going to be numerous similarities and common themes when talking about shit that deals with human existence.

Focusing on the differences between religions reveals soooo much more than focusing on the similarities.

 

Comparative implies both. Since spiritual teachers relate some measure of human experience the important methodology is to seek out the experience,
i.e. meditation, devotion, aestheticism, or another way, by hook or by crook, that is to say through the use of psychoactive compounds.

 

is there any evidence that satanists do this (or have ever done this) besides hysterical christian medieval propaganda? or those horrific cynical fraudulent fucks like stephen Dollins saying so?

the upside down cross is not a satanic symbol (although protestant propuganda may have tried, historically, to paint it as such) it is the symbol of st. peter, who believed that he was unworthy to be executed in the same manner as jesus, and so asked to be given a reverse crucifiction (a truly horrible death.) instead. The pope is supposed to be descended from the line of St. Peter (spiritually, rather than genetically, obviously) so the upside down cross appears on his throne etc. it's a symbol of humility before god.

(kind of ironic that your symbol of humility is a fucking THRONE in my opinion, but there ya go)

This Catholic church is st. peter's ministry, he died in Rome, so the catholic church sees itself as a continuation of St. peter's mission to "feed the sheep", as appointed to him by Jesus in his abscence.

there are many different types of christian symbol which are, or appear to be, variations of the standard crucifix.

the papal cross, or bent log, is a crucifix with the crossbeam bent down on either side, to symbolise the weight of human sin which jesus bore on his shoulders. this is a fairly common symbol used by the pope. (hence the name; papal cross)

also common is a crucifix with 3 crossbars to represent the trinity, as well as a lot of symbols sometimes mistaken for crucifix variations which are actually latin or greek letters overlaid on each other.

i'm not sure that that's entirely accurate.... but theres others on here who'll argue against this more succintly than i, i'm sure.

 

I most certainly haven't neglected the experiential half of the equation, by all methods mentioned above and then some, as you already know my friend.

It is the experiential knowledge when weighed and considered in light of the book knowledge that constitutes the main focus of my personal belief system, which is ever growing and changing, as stated in my sig, perpetual change.

It is that way for each and every one of us regardless if we are aware of it or not.

 

The cross isn't a Christian symbol either. It was originally used to signify Tammuz. Look it up if you want to know who he was.
Another trapping the Roman church brought forward from ancient religions.

There is no symbol to signify Christianity, at least not mentioned in the Bible. The fish we have all seen on car bumpers was the first identifying symbol used by Christians.

Not only that but the early church and smart Christians would never adopt the cross as a symbol. It signifies death and Christianity is centered around life and specifically around the resurrection. Maybe Christians should wear a little empty tomb around their necks, it is definitely more in line with Jesus' original message than a symbol of death.

 

the cross represents the passion of Christ, the suffering and pain that he went through to save Christians from sin. it is not inspirational that he was reborn as a god who transcends the flesh, but that he suffered as a man, and felt the same pain and the same death that we all do.

That's the significance of the cross.

 

That is true, their is no way to know the original message. If you ask any Jewish scholar based on their reading of the new testament they will tell you Jesus was basically the televangelist of his day, the Joseph Smith. The person who claimed to speak on behalf of god in order to further his own power. His entire story, the virgin birth, the resurrection etc was applied to many figures before him.

These elements of fiction have been applied to hide the true story.

This is going to go a little off topic and probably annoy you further, but Jesus if he existed was not human, but not "gods son" in the sense Christianity believes. He was not the product of a deity, but an advanced race. This race actually has had contact with the US government since then. During the cold war post area 51, they told Eisenhower they were responsible for Jesus, but after seeing how he was revived they realized we had not grown as a species enough. They tried again, and said they could protect us from other species such as the traditional grays that you commonly see in the media as the stereotypical alien. Races like these are more hostile to us. Their stipulation was that we get rid of our weapons, especially the nuclear ones. But Eisenhower refused, the fear of the Russians was too much. So now instead we actually have a "treaty" if you can call it that with species such as the grays. But they do not honer their end of it. Part of this allows them to take humans and livestock for their experiments. This is why farmers always find mutilated cattle in certain areas of the states.

It is important to apply all the myths about Jesus to him because these myths cloud the true story. It's the same reason certain drugs are illegal, there is a small ruling elite whose power relies on a large underclass that willingly serves them. They do not want you to understand your true power. But the key is to trick you into thinking you are in fact free.

Look at someplace like North Korea, that kind of oppression leads to a very under productive society. So in most places that sort of elite power structure and propaganda is put forth but the cage is a little bigger. Humans reproduce more and work better in a low stress environment. Any farmer knows happy livestock are fat and profitable livestock.

 

Here we have a symbol as it represents the connection to human suffering. It also represents the connection to human gladness, being a variation of the sanskrit swastika. Which means good to be.

 

That is the significance that has been applied to the cross much later. The early church nor Jesus himself put any significance to the cross except in relation to fulfillment of OT prophecy.
The resurrection is what Jesus focused on as well as the early church after the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was given.
Never was the message supposed to focus on the death, but on the resurrection.

Let me rephrase it.
The death of Christ and what it signified is best represented by the veil of the temple being torn in half, thus symbolically removing the barrier between God and man.

His death was necessary to fulfill the requirements of the Law, and upon his death that was accomplished. That is why he said "It is finished." referring to all the crap relating to the OT.

NOW we move on to Christianity which really had it's beginning the day of the resurrection and from that day it has been about life and resurrection, literal and symbolic.

We are reminded of the death and the why's and wherefore's of it, but Christians are not told to be morose and dwell on or celebrate it, but to rather dwell on and celebrate the resurrection and the living Christ.

I don't know, but after 6 readings of the New Testament, I still get the overall impression that it's about life, not death. Nowhere do I see mention of any symbol being used to signify Christianity, let alone a cross, at least not in the manner and connotations which are commonly associated with it today.

You will know them by their fruits, not their jewelry.