Can someone answer these Questions about Religion please?

Okay, so the other day I was thinking about religion (catholic, christian and this kinda stuff that believes in God and Jesus) and this questions just popped into my mind and I couldnt figure the answers out.

Please, if you can answer any of these would be AWESOME!!

1- Why would someone follow religion if it was reason for wars (many people dead)?
2- The Bible is interpreted by many people, but people are not perfect. How do you know if the interpretation is not wrong?
3- What if there is no heaven? What would you do?
4- What if there IS a heaven, what is this life for? If not happiness, suffering? And if it is for learning, why would I learn?
5- What if the right is wrong? If someone is interpreting the Bible wrong?
6- What is the point of religion anyway?
7- Why do we have to study the Bible once we accepted God in our lives? Why do we have to pray? Isn't just saying thank you to Jesus enough?
8- Who knows which god of all gods is the right God?

Thank you Any answers would be awesome!

 

I suggest you stop thinking about all that since you obviously are becoming more enlightened to things.
Best thing I ever did was denounce christianity and convert to Buddhism.

 

1- Why would someone follow religion if it was reason for wars (many people dead)? they are told to
2- The Bible is interpreted by many people, but people are not perfect. How do you know if the interpretation is not wrong? we don't, but people tend to ignore the gray areas and just focus on a few topics, such as: don't kill fetuses, hate homosexuals, and pay money to god. Lynching blacks used to be one of them, but it's not as frequently accepted.
3- What if there is no heaven? What would you do? die knowing i lived life the way I wanted to. or (hopefully) be reincaranted, but i'm not counting on it
4- What if there IS a heaven, what is this life for? If not happiness, suffering? And if it is for learning, why would I learn? heaven is just a "prize" for people so they don't do immoral things, like have sex with someone you love
5- What if the right is wrong? If someone is interpreting the Bible wrong?i don't think the interpretation is wrong, the people who wrote it are just dumbasses
6- What is the point of religion anyway?so that unhappy people can think they will be rewarded for being holy once a week
7- Why do we have to study the Bible once we accepted God in our lives? Why do we have to pray? Isn't just saying thank you to Jesus enough?because jesus only loves you if you ask him to give you stuff
8- Who knows which god of all gods is the right God?you don't. and won't until you die. so there's not much of a point in wasting energy on it.

 

5-- The right is wrong for environmental recording and reading and endorsing of a point of belief. But there are righteous for that substantial subject. Reflectively it was logical to know one's Right to learn appropriate Action for the community needing to compromise.

But there is no ultimate Right to be correct about for the abstract categorical decision to Act in the name of doing Justice. We agree to agree about the right thing to Do.


I'm glad to be of service for the mediated environmental and the immediate arty ethical and a priori.

It should be noted that the Bible never speaks directly about the a priori Good to Do. It speaks in parables and that other thing which name escapes my mind now. It's like the thought experimental about the Past in the certainty of there being a similar future.


This is all related to the Law with difficulties of obeying It. Only environmentally the Law is not to be broken, and you a priori guilty until proven innocent. With true self-conditioned ethics we must not even think of obeying the Laws of the society we Live in.


True?

 

People that follow religions don't usually think about the social impact of their religion.

nobody knows that. I know religious people that claim that even if the word was misinterpreted, God will allow one who worships him the insight to correctly interpret the bible.

Right..

I will die. hopefully I will be buried in a manner in which my body can go back to the earth, where bacteria and bugs will destroy my body so that they may live and thrive. Its the circle of life, and it moves us all, man.

Yup. you're on the right track.

there is no right or wrong because the bible is not some infallible truth.

a form of control, a purpose, an explanation, a comfort, a friend. amongst other reasons.

if you believe it is enough, then it is enough. religion should be personal.

if there is a god at all, i'm quite certain that all gods in all their incarnations are one and the same.

None of your questions really have answers, at least that other people can answer for you. I get the feeling you already know the answers to all these questions anyways.

 

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Hey, Lunarverse, are you being Kafkhaesque or Orwellian? The NDP phoned me from Calgary of all things yesterday. Politics "irreconcilable with religion", except for ME: remember those doctrinaire ages of the agency coming along with it's ready prepared Ideology.

 

I dont get it... Haha sorry, my english is not that advanced. Can you just simplify a little?

 

Then I'll you what I don't get. Why are people so empty of the love of Nature? Is it that they must satisfy themselves for utterly selfish wants and beliefs?

That's all.

 

What I don't get about people and their religions is the constant ,interminable ,never ending talk about it at churches,on TV,people coming to knock on doors to yack about their beliefs---just on and on and on. Why do people have to endlessly keep convincing themselves and others about the same ideas for hundreds and hundreds of years? I'm trying not to be critical ,but I wonder why people can't just decide on a personal set of beliefs,adhere to them and then forget about them,in a manner of speaking.? Are these beliefs so nebulus that reinforcement is constantly needed? What's the deal?

 

I think one of the main reasons would be that religious texts have always spoken of war, but perhaps the war was metaphorical. The Bhagavad Gita (a Hindu scripture) speaks of a man who goes to war with and against his family. Really it's a metaphor for going to was against himself and his own ideals. Sometimes ideas and thoughts must be fought hard to be overcome if we want to live in peace and happiness. There are Hindus who take the war at the beginning of the book as a historical event, but (like every religion) there are others who believe that it is a metaphor for the main character going to war with himself.

If people who follow the faith take the war parts seriously, they may come to believe that it is their god's plan for there to be war when "necessary". So, they would be more inclined to stand behind religious and possibly political war(s).

That's very subjective. If you and I get into an argument, how can I be so sure that I'm right and you are wrong? It depends on how you want to see your world. I guess your best bet, if you're interested in understanding religion(s), would be to have an open mind about various interpretations.

Speaking from a purely personal point of view, to me, it makes more sense that Jesus (since you brought up the bible) was a very smart, philosophical man. His ideas were radical for that time period and he stood by them and felt so strongly about them, that he was murdered because most felt he was smearing the name of god. But his ideas and his message are universal, I think that one can find peace and live in love if they can understand the true nature of his message. That we are all one, and should extend love (which is innate to all life) and should treat each other as though we are each other, because we are. When we do this we will live in a much better place. Though this message is not at all exclusive to Jesus.

I don't think he was god in the flesh any more than I am or any more than a black bear is god in the flesh. Everything is everything.

So this is the interpretation I choose to believe because it is the most logical I have yet to understand.

Nothing differently than I already do. Heaven, in my opinion, is a metaphor for the body of energy that is all life. We came from it and we will return to it once this body is dead. It is our natural state of being. It (as the bible says) is within. It is not separate from our bodies but a tether that runs through them. When our bodies die that tether will still be there. Energy is all there really is, it is indestructible and infinite. It is impossible for something to not exist, inexistence is nothing, nothing can't exist. I am something right now, a living thing. So, logically it would be impossible for me to not exist. Things cannot exist than go into inexistence. The universe wastes nothing.

This life is a biological/chemical reaction. It is for whatever you want it to be for. It doesn't come with a philosophical or religious definition or instructional manual. When you die you will return to the thing from whence you came. It is impossible to break this cycle. Energy ebbs and flows, but it is seamless. There's nothing you can do in this life that will change the course of it. Unless of course you embrace love and choose to live in it. In which case (in my subjective opinion) you will live in a "heightened" energy. The kind that is calm and beautiful no matter what happens, unlike the often chaotic energy we experience daily of ups and downs.

What if 6 was 9? If something is right to someone, it will most certainly be wrong to many others. Such is life. Millions have interpreted the bible wrong (in my opinion), the world hasn't ended yet. All it really means is that they are confused and mislead. Let them be, in their minds they are right. It's really nothing more than that.

For most it provides a sense of security and universal justice. Take for example a guy like Hitler. Many people probably enjoy the universal justice of knowing that a guy like that is rotting and burning in hell. If they knew that he was in fact not burning in hell, and that the energy of his being came and went from the same body of energy that is us and them and everything else, they'd probably have a fit. It makes people happy to know that bad people will be punished, especially if they could not be punished here on earth.

It's a pretty sick fetish when you think about it. To want people to suffer for what they have done. Should we not want all things to experience supreme love?

Should people instead not think; "I hope a guy like Hitler realises the magnitude of the pain and suffering and damage that he caused, and I hope he sees this and realises that he was very wrong. I hope a guy like that eventually experiences the love that can make all life worth living and enjoying."

You don't. Only if you'd like to understand the message of Jesus, or are interested in the bible's version of history should one study the bible.

If you are interested in the true message of Jesus, I'd recommend the Nag Hammadi over the Holy Bible. It gives a clearer picture of Jesus and a better understanding of his message.

For what are you thanking Jesus? Does Jesus put food on your plate? Does Jesus find you a job? Certainly not. Jesus was a man with a message.

Most pray because they believe the tired old traditions of the church(es).

Everything you have, you have done and gotten for yourself. Jesus doesn't deliver things to you. If you want to thank something, be thankful for the presence of those around you and those you love.

There's an old Hindu saying, "Ekam Sataha Vipraha Bahudha Vadanti."

This translates into, "The truth is One, but different Sages call it by Different Names."

 

And to add,the best christians I have known--never revealed to me that they were christians--they just seemed to be very nice people and I found out that they had christian beliefs very much by accident. So I know it can be done that way and I respected them greatly. The ones that I ever did business with, that blabbed about "then I found god" pretty much tried to screw me over. I do not do business with those types that attempt to disarm my bullshit detector to weasel me by acting righteous. Just the way it has been,sad to say. Sorry--my posts are not going to help anyone--so I'm out.

 

Belief never contends with the truth but with other beliefs. There is a de facto competition for your fealty. Advertisement for goods or services, political parties, religions, sports teams, neighborhood watch, and romantic partners.
Not only do we have competing voices outside, we have competing voices inside of ourselves vying for attention and legitimacy and most often these conflicting voices inside ourselves do not know or recognize each other. The scratcho who becomes angry as a way to deal with an aspect is not the same scratcho that might choose calm as a way to deal with an aspect. Angry scratcho and peaceful scratcho never meet. Where one is the other is absent.

So it is not just a religious conversation or contention that we are faced with everyday. We come into the world with a primary thrust that there is good in the world and we ought to have it. Beyond that basic impulse is the imperative to answer the question what or who am I, and from there, who or what represents my good. We are devotional in nature to our own good.
Everyone asks questions.

 

Definitely, some of the best people I've ever known happened to hold christian beliefs. Note the difference between "christian morality" and "christian beliefs". These people, as I later found out were christians, also revealed that they were very much against many aspects of the religion and the church, but they felt that Christ's message was a good one. So, while they were of christian belief (they believed in Christ) they did not necessarily identify as a christian (the church).

I am still surprised when a decent, intelligent, level headed person reveals to me that they are a christian. I grew up with fundamentalists, ones that believe hypnosis is the "devil's work", and so it is surprising to me to see that there are those (like in any group) who seem to be good, well adjusted, decent people who happen to be christian.

Has restored my faith in people a little bit

 

"defacto competition for your fealty"

That seems about right. I don't wish to compete with philosophical ideas. I present. You present. I don't want to convince anyone of anything except maybe that I am a loving person and that I will install a roof on someone's home to the best of my ability, which happens to be considerable. It just seems somewhat wastefull of one's time to continually discuss the ineffable when actions speak so much louder than the spoken word. It doesn't make me angry---just curious.

 

Lunaverse---absolutely on the words of the jesus. If humans lived according to them--it would be a better world. My dear departed grandmother taught me when I was 5 years old to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". It was repeated to me many times. What more does anyone need?

 

Or perhaps you've just indicated that you're a free thinker. You don't have to define yourself as any religion to be spiritual. My spirituality is a hodgepodge of what I find to be true of all religions, with a few of my own personal beliefs thrown in there.

Oh, and great post lunar. I tried to rep you but it wouldn't let me.